|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 13190 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Barnabus="Barnabus"What would you suggest?'"
Send a strongly worded letter, stating our dislike of what they are doing and ask them politely to stop.
Then, sit on the fence for a few more years.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 47951 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote rover49="rover49"Send a strongly worded letter, stating our dislike of what they are doing and ask them politely to stop.
Then, sit on the fence for a few more years.'"
What would you do – and would you also do something about all the conflicts FA linked to or just the one that's currently on our TVs?
If you don't think we should interfere in the others, why not? Why would Syria be more 'important' or whatever?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 14135 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2019 | Apr 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mintball="Mintball"How about what [iyou[/i would suggest?
You want to bomb more people? You want to invade, perhaps?
Big, macho things to do.
Where next? Anywhere else with nasty leaders who do nasty things?
The interfering of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has frequently worsened such situations in the past – see Iran as but one example – why would it be any different this time?
And see FA's post.
On top of that, consider this: in this age of austerity, what additional services would you cut to fund those bombs or invasions? Even less care for the elderly than now, perhaps? After all, they'll die soon anyway.'"
In other words, you haven't a clue what you would do. Right?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 47951 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Yes. [url=http://viewtopic.php?tsmp=1338382800&p=16930995&sid=aedefe3b2c04d3c9315330d13b0fc12b&tsmp=1338382841#p16930995That's what I said earlier.[/url
I do know, however, what NOT to do.
Are you in favour of us getting into another war, then?
And if so, can you answer the questions I just posted?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 37704 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| We've got a very long history of allowing Middle Eastern dictators to commit atrocities and as Rober Fisk says: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-west-is-horrified-by-childrens-slaughter-now-soon-well-forget-7794149.htmlAl Assad will get away with it and we'll all forget about it[/url
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 47951 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"We've got a very long history of allowing Middle Eastern dictators to commit atrocities and as Rober Fisk says: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-west-is-horrified-by-childrens-slaughter-now-soon-well-forget-7794149.htmlAl Assad will get away with it and we'll all forget about it[/url'"
He does not, however, suggest a solution and, indeed, touches on the problems that interference have caused.
I very much suspect many would prefer Assad to remain in power anyway – better the devil you know etc – especially with the growing political power of the Muslim Brotherhood (and others) in Egypt and questions still waiting to be answered about what that will mean.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"We've got a very long history of allowing Middle Eastern dictators to commit atrocities and as Rober Fisk says: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-west-is-horrified-by-childrens-slaughter-now-soon-well-forget-7794149.htmlAl Assad will get away with it and we'll all forget about it[/url'"
Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 47951 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Fisk is right, but I completely disagree that we are "allowing" anything. In the context of all the various things which are going on in many sovereign states around the globe, saying we are "allowing" all those things is not a fair or correct use of "allowing". They aren't under our control.'"
Very good point.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2016 | Feb 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote How about what [iyou[/i would suggest?'"
I suggest the commencement of air strikes on military targets in Syria, akin to the operations in Libya.
Quote You want to bomb more people? You want to invade, perhaps?'"
Yese i am all for bombing mass murderers and tyrants.
Quote Where next? Anywhere else with nasty leaders who do nasty things?'"
Iran. Then any other dictatorship.
Quote The interfering of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has frequently worsened such situations in the past – see Iran as but one example – why would it be any different this time?'"
Generally the interference of nations in the internal politics of other sovereign states has improved the situation: (1) Germany was better once we had de-nazified it, (2) Japan has been more peaceful and friendly since we removed its government in 1945, (3) Eastern Europe is much freer, more prosperous and friendlier since we interfered to undermine the tyranny of the socialists, (4) Afghanistan poses much less of a threat to Western security since we demolished all the Al-Qaeda training camps, (5) Iraq has been much friendlier to the West since we removed Saddam Hussein.
In contrast we have not interfered in Iran - it remains a bitter enemy committed to regional hegemony, nuclear weaponry and the support of terrorist organisations, nor North Korea which continues to post a threat to the stability of the Pacific.
Quote On top of that, consider this: in this age of austerity, what additional services would you cut to fund those bombs or invasions?'"
NHS and EU funding.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 47951 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote David Titan="David Titan"I suggest the commencement of air strikes on military targets in Syria, akin to the operations in Libya...'"
I bet you got a stiffy just at the thought.
Quote David Titan="David Titan"NHS and EU funding.'"
I bet you got a stiffy just at the thought.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10852 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2018 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Quote Mintball="David Titan"I suggest the commencement of air strikes on military targets in Syria, akin to the operations in Libya...'"
I bet you got a stiffy just at the thought.
Quote Mintball="David Titan"NHS and EU funding.'"
I bet you got a stiffy just at the thought.'"
Not as big as the one he gets when the GT hits his doormat.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 25122 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Are we really going to fall for this con trick again?
I mean, Assad is a pretty ty guy but there's nothing new here. Once again the BBC and the usual crop of major domestic news outlets are playing their roles of war propagandists. The Beeb has been running front page, position one stories on Syria for months whilst any number of atrocities are taking place in other parts of the world.
|
|
|
 |
|