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| Quote Dally="Dally"Quote Dally="kirkstaller"No.
If you decide to be born again you will have everlasting life. How do you know God has not predestined you to be a Christian at some point?
Have you read the Bible? Examined it's historicity? Looked at the creation around you?
You harden your heart. You purposefully block out God.'"
As a sage on here said the other day - he protests so much one supects he is a closet Christian. Just needs to be honest with himself and come out.'"
That's weak, even for you. The 'sage' who said about homophobes being closet homosexuals had the backing of a scientific study. Do you have such a study to link to?
Perhaps you'll be able to post it when you post your answer to El B's question, eh?
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| Double teamed by the chuckle brothers!
Only Allah can save you now RG.
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"Double teamed by the chuckle brothers!
Only Allah can save you now RG.'"
Allah's a pussy. Nearly as big a pussy as Yahweh. No, I want Thor in my corner. Proper god, he is.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"I know that all the time I have the capacity for rational thought, I will believe nothing for which no evidence exists. So unless 'God' is planning to drop something heavy on my head in the next few years, there's little chance of me being 'born again'.'"
I was once as vehemently against God as you. How does that make you feel?
Quote Rock God XAre you able to read at all? I've said twice in this thread already that I've read the Bible. '"
But have you understood it?
Quote Rock God XYep. Written between 100 and 200 years after the events supposedly occurred by numerous different authors, translated and re-translated several times in the interim by those with an agenda to control the masses. Culturally interesting, but wholly unreliable.'"
Your dates are out and many early transcripts and codexes are available for anyone to look at.
Quote Rock God XNo. I've looked at the world around me. It was certainly not 'created'.'"
Yes ,it [iobviously [/iappeared out of thin air.
Quote Rock God XIf evidence existed for your the existence of your chosen deity, I would block him out because he'd be evil. But no such evidence exists.'"
That is very sad.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"That's weak, even for you. The 'sage' who said about homophobes being closet homosexuals had the backing of a scientific study. Do you have such a study to link to?
Perhaps you'll be able to post it when you post your answer to El B's question, eh?'"
Glad to see you have returned after your brief absence. Take a pew.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Quote Dally="Rock God X"That's weak, even for you. The 'sage' who said about homophobes being closet homosexuals had the backing of a scientific study. Do you have such a study to link to?
Perhaps you'll be able to post it when you post your answer to El B's question, eh?'"
Glad to see you have returned after your brief absence. Take a pew.'"
About those 'vociferous minorities'?
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"About those 'vociferous minorities'?'"
What about them?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"
I was once as vehemently against God as you. How does that make you feel?'"
It makes me pity you.
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But have you understood it?'"
Ah, I see. One can't just think the Bible is rubbish - if you think that, you must not have understood it. Excellent reasoning.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Quote Dally="Rock God X"About those 'vociferous minorities'?'"
What about them?'"
You have been asked on several occasions to name those 'vociferous minorities', the granting of rights to whom has eroded the moral fabric of society.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Ah, I see. One can't just think the Bible is rubbish - if you think that, you must not have understood it. Excellent reasoning.'"
Have you heard the Parable of the Sower?
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"You have been asked on several occasions to name those 'vociferous minorities', the granting of rights to whom has eroded the moral fabric of society.'"
The thread has drifted away from gay marriage and I got bored with that days ago. I have no intention of reinvorating it.
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| So if everything needs a creator who created the creator?
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"So if everything needs a creator who created the creator?'"
That's one for scientists to discover.
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| Of course, there's loads of them with nothing to do now gods sorted out cancer and aids.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Quote Dally="Rock God X"You have been asked on several occasions to name those 'vociferous minorities', the granting of rights to whom has eroded the moral fabric of society.'"
The thread has drifted away from gay marriage and I got bored with that days ago. I have no intention of reinvorating it.'"
Pathetic. You made a statement which you were unable to back up and now you're trying to wriggle out of it. Classic Dally. It's like the 'off-site book' all over again.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"The thread has drifted away from gay marriage and I got bored with that days ago. I have no intention of reinvorating it.'"
Dally in "not answering a direct question" shocker.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"... If you decide to be born again you will have everlasting life ...'"
By your own arguments, only a few posts before this, there is no such choice because your god has already decided everything.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Oh, ffs, you must be a troll. No one is actually that stupid or unfeeling...'"
Oh, there's an extent to which trolling is occurring. But his refusal to respond to anything I post – presumably because he has declared that I 'work for Satan' make me suspect that there's a substantial element of actual belief there too.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Quote Mintball="Rock God X"Oh, ffs, you must be a troll. No one is actually that stupid or unfeeling...'"
Oh, there's an extent to which trolling is occurring. But his refusal to respond to anything I post – presumably because he has declared that I 'work for Satan' make me suspect that there's a substantial element of actual belief there too.'"
How much does this Satan chap pay?
Could do with a few hours seeing as I'm kicking my heels around at present.
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| Hey Kirkstaller i remember you now, i used to watch you with my mates on a saturday afternoon in Wake town ranting in your ecclesiastical ways. you used to have a group who took it in turns. they stood in the corner where they would try to blend in with the public, but the thing that gave them away was they would kep nodding in agreement. God must be laughing his ass off at you muppets. Please try to read the second coming by john niven. It basically says for people just to be nice to each other, nothing else.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"How much does this Satan chap pay?
Could do with a few hours seeing as I'm kicking my heels around at present.'"
The pay is good, but the conditions are hell.
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| Quote Pat Bateman="Pat Bateman" Please try to read the second coming by john niven. It basically says for people just to be nice to each other, nothing else.'"
Which is the main message of the Bible. If Christians would simply follow that message, and many do, instead of attempting to run everybody else's lives then they would find a lot more sympathy around the country. Sadly too many Christians follow the latter course rather than the former.
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| Quote Him="Him"Which is the main message of the Bible. If Christians would simply follow that message, and many do, instead of attempting to run everybody else's lives then they would find a lot more sympathy around the country. Sadly too many Christians follow the latter course rather than the former.'"
No, the main message of the Bible is to tell us how to be reconciled with God - grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
It is good to follow God's commandments and it certainly pleases him when we do this, but that is not the main message of Christian scripture.
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| Which is why you consistently misunderstand the Bible and Jesus' teachings, to the extent that you believe you have the right to tell 1 person who he can love and who he can't. That is not the intention of Jesus' teachings, the intent was to be nice to each other. By being nice to someone else you make the world a slightly better place. Again, if Christians would follow that very simple message instead of focussing on the other outdated crap that was inserted into the Bible centuries after the event then I am certain that Christianity would be far more popular and far less derided in this country.
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| Why is hell so bad?
You've left your body so can't feel the heat.
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