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| Quote Mr Jagger="Mr Jagger"I did say what I was about to say wouldn't be popular and they do say the truth hurts, I agree both Fax as a team and RM have done well this season achieving what most thought impossible , getting to the 8's and I applaud them
however we have been shown we are not up to Bottom of the SL ,as even Sheff beat us.
Our centres are both slow and overweight , Leigh have put Sheff to the sword today , I was hoping we could beat Leigh next week , now it looks unlikely .
There's not much wrong with our pack and Muzza leads from the front , however we lack pace on the outside as Salford made us look like running in Diving boots at times, I was criticised for saying we MUST go full time next season , but yesterday's game proved me right, our fitness was lacking, another poster said when we equalised there was nothing in it , which is true but that was early in the game, I hope Brierley doesn't give us the runaround next week, and we have to go to Odsal yet.
Still I will be there cheering the lads on, bring on the Lankies next week.'"
I know everyone is disappointed how it has gone so far but realistically we were never going to be up to the standard of the bottom of SL over a series of games. To compete against Widnes, Hull Kr and now Salford for long periods of the games is an achievement in itself and with a few better decisions and maybe a bit of luck we could have won maybe every one of those games, but that is what that extra money buys you.
We are bound to lack pace out wide with no first choice wingers playing and I think Heaton can be excused for getting caught out because he is never a winger but was making one in for the team. Personally I do not think we were lacking anything in terms of fitness and when we got back within 6 in the 2nd half we looked to be on top but then a missed tackle from a lad who hasnt played all year cost us badly. Again that can be excused as to play your first game back from injury against a SL team is going to be tough.
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"He did and he has got better and better for us with more game time. I really hope he decides to stay next year because he can be a top forward in this league and then push to get back to SL again. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards before you can go two steps forward and I hope Fairbank sees that because he has the talent.'"
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"He did and he has got better and better for us with more game time. I really hope he decides to stay next year because he can be a top forward in this league and then push to get back to SL again. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards before you can go two steps forward and I hope Fairbank sees that because he has the talent.'"
here's hoping
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| Quote Mr Jagger="Mr Jagger" Leigh have put Sheff to the sword today , I was hoping we could beat Leigh next week , now it looks unlikely .
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Why? Sheffield were beaten by a large scoreline at Bradford - the following week Bradford lost heavily at Wakefield.
Sheffield were beaten by a large scoreline at Widnes.The following week Widnes lost at home less than a week before the HKR LCC Final.
I would think the time RM spent at Warrington would give him knowledge on how to nullify the threat caused by Higham and with home advantage and a competent performance from the appointed referee 'Fax have a very good chance.
Hull KR have been consistent;the same cannot be said of other sides in The Qualifiers.
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| I agree with all thats been said so far. We have overacheived this season and should be really proud. We need to remember our expectations pre season which have been exceeded.
However, having seen the highlights from Saturday, there was a few tries conceded which we should be dissapointed with regardless of opposition, I think thats the point being made?
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"=#FF0000I know everyone is disappointed how it has gone so far but realistically we were never going to be up to the standard of the bottom of SL over a series of games. To compete against Widnes, Hull Kr and now Salford for long periods of the games is an achievement in itself and with a few better decisions and maybe a bit of luck we could have won maybe every one of those games, but that is what that extra money buys you.
We are bound to lack pace out wide with no first choice wingers playing and I think Heaton can be excused for getting caught out because he is never a winger but was making one in for the team. Personally I do not think we were lacking anything in terms of fitness and when we got back within 6 in the 2nd half we looked to be on top but then a missed tackle from a lad who hasnt played all year cost us badly. Again that can be excused as to play your first game back from injury against a SL team is going to be tough.'"
For me, that's been the problem for you, Bradford, Sheffield and Leigh, GFB. We've all been playing to a high level in the Championship, but it's been one heck of a step up to meet four reasonable SL teams. We have only been able to play 'what's in front of us' week in, week out, in the Championship. Our players are, in the main, Championship standard players, albeit mostly the best at that level. I'm sure if any of us made it to SL - a huge ask, but not completely impossible, in this format - we would have to see an influx of new, SL-standard players, to be able to compete.
I think all four of us can hold our heads up high, at how we have performed so far - and celebrate Bradford's achievement in turning over Salford.
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| Quote Alan="Alan"For me, that's been the problem for you, Bradford, Sheffield and Leigh, GFB. We've all been playing to a high level in the Championship, but it's been one heck of a step up to meet four reasonable SL teams. We have only been able to play 'what's in front of us' week in, week out, in the Championship. Our players are, in the main, Championship standard players, albeit mostly the best at that level. I'm sure if any of us made it to SL - a huge ask, but not completely impossible, in this format - we would have to see an influx of new, SL-standard players, to be able to compete.
I think all four of us can hold our heads up high, at how we have performed so far - and celebrate Bradford's achievement in turning over Salford.'"
The more teams that go full time in this league will improve the league and narrow the gap between us and SL. If we have more full time teams the weekly competition becomes hard and more intense which is what we need when we are playing SL teams. Although Bradford and Leigh are full time the rest of our comp isn't so although they are good the don't get to play at the intensity of SL full timers. Sheffield go FT next season and us in 2017 (Hopefully). This will improve the Championship comp. I know its about money but if we could get around 8 to 10 teams playing FT in this comp we will then be able to give SL a run for their money.
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| Quote Alan="Alan"For me, that's been the problem for you, Bradford, Sheffield and Leigh, GFB. We've all been playing to a high level in the Championship, but it's been one heck of a step up to meet four reasonable SL teams. We have only been able to play 'what's in front of us' week in, week out, in the Championship. Our players are, in the main, Championship standard players, albeit mostly the best at that level. I'm sure if any of us made it to SL - a huge ask, but not completely impossible, in this format - we would have to see an influx of new, SL-standard players, to be able to compete.
I think all four of us can hold our heads up high, at how we have performed so far - and celebrate Bradford's achievement in turning over Salford.'"
Excellent post...........barring the last bit! 
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| Agreed .......nil points isn't very good, is it. Doncaster would have equalled that.
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| Quote 8ULL5HITT4="8ULL5HITT4"Agreed .......nil points isn't very good, is it. Doncaster would have equalled that.'"
Aye, it's what your shower got down't Shay. 
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| Sorry about the praise for B******d, Hudd-Shay. Very insensitive of me on this Board, and tantamount to 'Fax fans calling us a small town in W***n, I suppose! 
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| Have a large slice of humble pie tonight Mr Jagger
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