Nope, I'm not counting away support.



For instance, Harlequins, Catalans - we only achieved 5,000 attendances.



I'd say we have a ST base of about 3000 fans. Hull have considerably more.

So we get 2000 away support every game....dont think so.

No, the bigger games more paying fans come out the woodwork.

Alot more would come out of the woodwork if we were winning games and putting in good performances week in week out



Until we gain back consistancy, stop getting thumped by bigger teams and comptete week in week out the "woodwork fans" will remain the same



I remember a certain CEO saying in 1999 that he wanted an average crowd of 10k in the next 5 years, Well hes had 10 and were still not there.



Wont mention his hairbrain 5 year plans including Grand finals etc.



Fans want to follow consistant success.

Fans want to see quality players, not release someone then resign then 1month later who in fairness is average at best.



Stopping recruitment because of a 20k fine is a lame excuse, Sign a quality player he'll pay for himself and the fine in season tickets and shirts alone.

Back to the topic,hope they get the home shirt out before Christmas, be nice wearing the new one christmas day & boxing day to the bulls game





on subject of lack of quality signings id put up with this seasons squad if it meant some really positive news on the new stadium

It would be … if anyone had offered it as an excuse. Or indeed said that we'd stopped recruitment. TM says the exact opposite – but what would he know compared to the odd internet poster.

So whats that comment then?



TM isnt the man to get Cas back to where we belong or should i say what fans deserve. The BOD are in that basket as well.



Pay peanuts - get monkeys!



As for shirts in Before Christmas, theres a first - finally after god knows how many years they are realising what an important revenue stream it is.

A#se and Elbow spring to mind.

Tm managed to finish above several coaches that had hundreds of thousands more to spend than him so think what he could do if he could spend full cap like, smith, mclennan, potter, agar, noble, morgan and brown?

Sorry, have you watched the team's progression over the past few years? Were you expecting us to win SL last season or something?



Growth and improvement takes time, taking a team from bottom of the league to the play-offs in a year proves to me TM is the man to lead Cas for the foreseeable future

I'm not even going to dignify that with a response, oh balls I already have.



isn't it ironic... don't you think [size=59(applicable to bold and big bit for the hard of understanding)[/size

[url=http://www.castigers.com/cgi-bin/news.cgi?141_201010It's the one I voted for[/url and in time for Christmas?

Just seen the new shirt on the cas website, i voted for that design (jersey 1, different collar though)



Think it looks great,club will sell alot of them i reckon