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A large part of the problem has to be that the tj's appear to do less and less to help the ref. Some of the decisions passed to the vr today would not have to have been were those 3 all doing their jobs
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I thought Silverwood was going to go to the video ref for what meat was on his sunday dinner tonight !
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There was one occasion when I was glad he went to video because he'd called the decision totally wrong and the video clearly put him right (when a Hudds player touched the ball first but Deadwood said we had knocked on). It wasn't a significant moment as it turned out, but it could have been.
The problem is prolly not with the video ref but with the clowns we call refs on the pitch.
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| Quote gulfcoast_highwayman="gulfcoast_highwayman"How long has going to the video ref for scrum decisions been allowed.
It needs stopping now, it could set a worrying precedent. Video refs take too long as it is. We don't need them umming and aahing over even more calls.'"
Brett Hodgson agrees with you on that one, although he did say that they weren't allowed to ask the third umpire. Probably still gloating about events at Headingley. |
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| Quote Lord_Percy="Lord_Percy"David Hodgson agrees with you on that one, although he did say that they weren't allowed to ask the third umpire. Probably still gloating about events at Headingley.'"
Why would David Hodgson be gloating about the working class Aussies stuffing the public schoolboys at cricket? |
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| Quote hopie4ever="hopie4ever"the scrum decision shows poor officials, he didnt see it, the tj didnt see it, so he went to the video
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If you could tell, at full speed from parallel to the incident, that the Huddersfield player had played at the ball then you need to be out in Afghanistan finding Osama Bin Laden with that eyesight.
It got the merest flick off an outstretched finger, without the video there it would probably have been given as a Huddersfield head and feed. Do you want decisions made immediately or do you want them made right? |
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"If you could tell, at full speed from parallel to the incident, that the Huddersfield player had played at the ball then you need to be out in Afghanistan finding Osama Bin Laden with that eyesight.
It got the merest flick off an outstretched finger, without the video there it would probably have been given as a Huddersfield head and feed. Do you want decisions made immediately or do you want them made right?'"
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"Why would David Hodgson be gloating about the working class Aussies stuffing the public schoolboys at cricket?'"
Yeah, good point. |
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Do you want decisions made immediately or do you want them made right?'"
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"Do they have to be mutually exclusive concepts?'"
No, but there needs to be an acceptance that they are not always going to be the same thing either. I've no problems with fans wanting decisions made on the spot, providing they are prepared to accept that the numerous video replays we are subjected to by broadcasters will show some of them up to be wrong.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"No, but there needs to be an acceptance that they are not always going to be the same thing either. I've no problems with fans wanting decisions made on the spot, providing they are prepared to accept that the numerous video replays we are subjected to by broadcasters will show some of them up to be wrong.
Experience would suggest however that fans have unrealistic expectations of match officials.'"
Is it unrealsitic to want consistent decisions within the same game???????
In games such as semi's and finals i've no problem using the video refs as many times as they want as long the decisions are clear and correct. |
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"Is it unrealsitic to want consistent decisions within the same game???????.'"
Define "consistent". |
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