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| Quote eddiewaringsflatcap="eddiewaringsflatcap"Exactly.
The team that is picked for tonight is awful. It is an absolute embarrasment and an indicment of the game at the moment.
OK, so there are no Leeds or Saints players (exc. Scott Moore), but we are playing a loose forward at centre. A loose forward who has no pace at all. It is terrible IMO.
Sykes was garbage in the WC - like Wellens - but when has he ever come close to showing anything like Wellens has in the domestic game? If TS wants change, fine it is needed, but Sykes?? Come on. It is the inclusion that has depressed just about every serious RL fan around.
The team will change for the nitty-gritty against Aus, but the problems are still there - we are set to try two youngsters at HB who have had one good season each, and have possibly the worst backline in GB history.
Fortunately at Saints we can pin hopes on the likes of Wheller, Gaskell, Lomax and Eastomd doing something in the future, but that takes time and the attrition rate for promising players to international class players is very high.
The gamer needs to really change but the RFL are masters at self serving and self interest.'"
I tell you what (IMHO) would be an embarrassment and a sad indictment of the game. A full strength England team smashing the living daylights out of a Wales team in Wales.
It may be dummed down but it might just be an opportunity to allow Wales to play some attractive rugby in front of their home crowd and give the team that England do put out a chance to defend against a team that is willing to throw the ball about a bit.
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| Quote leicester_rhino="leicester_rhino"Yeah, there ar4e some puzzelling selections thats for sure. He may have been invisible again on Saturday, but the none-selection of Pryce was also very strange, given his experience and ability to cover 1-6, and to a better standard than Sykes'"
Yep I was a bit confused too. It would seem a bit strange to play O'Loughlin at centre when, if you want to play a backrower at centre then surely Ellis would be the man for it. And as you say if including Sykes as cover why not include Pryce instead.
Since we no longer have Senior and have a complete lack of quality in the centres I'd have been tempted to give Pryce a go at centre.
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| Quote loinertillidie="loinertillidie"I tell you what (IMHO) would be an embarrassment and a sad indictment of the game. A full strength England team smashing the living daylights out of a Wales team in Wales.
It may be dummed down but it might just be an opportunity to allow Wales to play some attractive rugby in front of their home crowd and give the team that England do put out a chance to defend against a team that is willing to throw the ball about a bit.'"
Looking at the Welsh squad, this still looks suspiciously like the sort of mis-match you'd get if a mid-table Super League side played one of the better National League 2 sides. I still can't see anything but a heavy, heavy beating for Wales.
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| Quote eddiewaringsflatcap="eddiewaringsflatcap"we..... have possibly the worst backline in GB history.
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I badly want that not to be true, but I'm afraid it probably is.
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| Quote G1="G1"Myler will be Ecstatic with Johns influence.
E's really gonna help bring him along.'" 
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| On a slightly related topic is Ross Divorty any relation of the former Leeds, Halifax, Hull and probably other places, loose forward Gary? Or is that a more common name than I give it credit for?
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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"On a slightly related topic is Ross Divorty any relation of the former Leeds, Halifax, Hull and probably other places, loose forward Gary? Or is that a more common name than I give it credit for?'"
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| Quote BigRob="BigRob"
Since we no longer have Senior and have a complete lack of quality in the centres I'd have been tempted to give Pryce a go at centre.'" Senior said he might reconsider retirement if Smith Gave him a call.
Given Senior's form and given the criminal lack of quality in the threequarters I am very surprised TS didn't pick up the phone.
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| Quote G1="G1"Senior said he might reconsider retirement if Smith Gave him a call.
Given Senior's form and given the criminal lack of quality in the threequarters I am very surprised TS didn't pick up the phone.'"
I hope he doesnt.
Senior with a rest in the off season should be superb again next year.
In the long bar on Saturday night he said he hopes to eclipse 600 games in his career. Good luck to him.
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| Quote Head High Tackle="Head High Tackle"I hope he doesnt.
Senior with a rest in the off season should be superb again next year.
In the long bar on Saturday night he said he hopes to eclipse 600 games in his career. Good luck to him.'" From a selfish (Leeds point of view) I agree.
From an England RL point of view Smith should be begging Keith to play.
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| Quote G1="G1"From a selfish (Leeds point of view) I agree.'"
That was my viewpoint.
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| Quote G1="G1"Senior said he might reconsider retirement if Smith Gave him a call.
Given Senior's form and given the criminal lack of quality in the threequarters I am very surprised TS didn't pick up the phone.'"
I agree, I was suprised too considering there's no doubt he's been the best English centre this season by a mile and our other options make me wince at the thought of Greg Inglis running at them.
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