But you'd like to think sooner or later we will do the business, could be doubtful but im hanging onto hope.







You could be right. They we're very strong around the ruck against Warrington. I just hope 1-17 for Leeds run their blood to water. That means the markers must work hard, win the wrestle and control the ptb.

Where did they destroy Warrington? It wasn't on the score board.



It'll be all on the day. Both sides mixing and matching. Most likely decided by discipline or lack thereof and making unforced errors.



St Helens going in as slight favourites for me but that'll count for little come kick-off time.

Never said they destroyed them on the scoreboard though did I my old bean





I said they destroyed them around the ruck area which they did, and I can see them doing the same against us. There is nothing wrong with that though. Saints are the best team in the league IMO and if they win they deserve to. I agree its all about the day though and if we win I wont celebrate any less.

Now that saints have Meli and Gardner on the same side of the pitch you should just bomb them two every time they couldn't catch a cold also flannery didn't look too comfortable at centre on saturday

Sadly though Flannery had his best game iv seen him play at centre against us earlier this season. I agree with the Meli & Gardner thing though. 2 of the worst good wingers in the league on the same side can only be good for us

Meli has been brilliant this season and has had a couple of top games at centre.

He plays better for Leeds tho! Does he still think he has some sort of debt to pay Leeds?

at the fans on the Saints board tonight...This is a good one: They want the RFL to look at the 20 metre restart rule because Leeds kick it dead on purpose to slow the game down.

Ive heard some bollox on here but that has to be near the top.

I wouldn't shift Seinor/Delaney into the forwards. I'd have Smith on the bench as a potential game breaker and replacment for 1-5, with Burrow/McGuire at halfback. Given the length of time he's been out I wouldn't include Diskin either - this is not the game for ring-rusty players.



Defence around marker and up the middle will be key. If Leeds are as soft up the middle as they were against Sts at home we'll lose. We need to control tackles and slow down the resulting PTB, and actually stop forwards at the gain line (I lost count of how many times in that game Leeds lost the collision, with Sts forwards making big yards after being hit by the tacklers).



Personally I'm not too hopeful. The lack of Ali and Eastwood as game-breaking second rows is a real loss. Without them we have no real punch in the forwards. I will very gladly be proved entirely wrong, however...

Not sure it's a tactic, Leeds just have a pretty average short kicking game.



If it's the longer kicks downfield (lets say those from within your own half) then I think perhaps there is an argument for changing the law on the re-start to discourage the negative tactic, employed by most sides.



One for the off season though not now.

All you'd have to do to negate the dead ball long kick is let sides restart as fast as they like from the 20. I wouldn't even care if a team was offside so long as they didn't interfere with play.

I dunno, what about the claim that Bailey only makes some metres because he's tall?????