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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"So what were the penalties awarded against Ablett in the 23rd and 46th minutes for?'"
For being a cocky gobe.
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| Quote Dave Heron's Moustache="Dave Heron's Moustache"
Not talking.
He conceded an extra 10 metres twice if that's what you mean, once for talking and the second time for laughing apparantly.'"

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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"icon_confused.gif'"
 Well if you will leave the question out.
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| Quote Dave Heron's Moustache="Dave Heron's Moustache"icon_lol.gif Well if you will leave the question out.'"
My head is hurting enough without trying to follow this conversation.
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| Quote Dave Heron's Moustache="Dave Heron's Moustache"There was one player (I couldn't see the number) stood a metre or two infront of Ganson. If he's been anywhere other than right infront of him I think you are right, but it was the correct decision. The fact he didn't give others is purely down to Mr G.
And no, I don't think he would have given a penalty if Diskin hadn't knocked on.
What this says to me is that Ganson is a ref who doesn't give what he sees, I have the suspician that he tries to set his own narrative to the game (which is why I prefer the likes of Smith - even though he makes errors there is no real plan to it). IMO Ganson sees himself as the conductor of the game rather than the arbiter of the rulebook - his aggressive attitude when awarding penalties doesn't transmit calm to players (Klein got a lot of stick, but he never lost his cool and kept players cool generally because of this). Ganson's face when Donald scored said volumes, I've never seen anyone look as gutted (he looked more p!$$ed off than Kear).'"
Totally agree with all your comments. I believe that Ganson thinks that the crowd come to see him and not the players. His ego is twice as big as the players he is refereeing. I know from personal experience that it is difficult to concentrate on the game when you believe that the official is not seeing the same offences for both teams and comments are often made. Sinfield elluded to this in his after match comments.
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| Quote Rhino Bucs="Rhino Bucs"Totally agree with all your comments. I believe that Ganson thinks that the crowd come to see him and not the players. His ego is twice as big as the players he is refereeing. I know from personal experience that it is difficult to concentrate on the game when you believe that the official is not seeing the same offences for both teams and comments are often made. Sinfield elluded to this in his after match comments.'"
Damn I wanted to write that... 
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| Quote Rhino Bucs="Rhino Bucs"Totally agree with all your comments. I believe that Ganson thinks that the crowd come to see him and not the players.
....when you believe that the official is not seeing the same offences for both teams and comments are often made. '"
There's the rub, all we ask is that both sides are refereed the same.
Can anyone seriously suggest that at no time in the game did wakefield put in a high tackle or commit any other offence until we'd been pinged 10 times?
Similarly in tonights's game when Grix had to go off to play no further part in the game after an attack to the head missed by all the officials, yet the Wolves got penalised for a much less serious high tackle by Vinnie Anderson I think a few moments later.
That's what irritates fans of all teams. The lack of consistency.
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| It can't be a coincidence that we get penalised like mad in every game and we have given away more penalties than any other team in SL (bar 1).
Something needs to be done, our discipline is terrible!
There is no excuse for Ablett chatting back to the ref twice! If this didnt happen we wouldnt have to wait until the last play of the game to win it!
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| Quote fiddestherhino="fiddestherhino"It can't be a coincidence that we get penalised like mad in every game and we have given away more penalties than any other team in SL (bar 1).
Something needs to be done, our discipline is terrible!
There is no excuse for Ablett chatting back to the ref twice! If this didnt happen we wouldnt have to wait until the last play of the game to win it!'"
TBH we've usually had a dip in operformance in June/July time and whilst not necessarily poor discipline we have made plenty of mistakes. The team has got it's attacking back on line over the last month, the challenge now is to work on
1. defence - we all know that Leeds can improve their intensity here
2. ball control - 50% completion rate in 1st half.
3. Discipline - I'm hoping that thee club has not put too much emphasis on this to allow other parts of their game to improve.
They are now into the last 7 games of the season with a couple of weeks off for CC games. I expect to see the intensity start buildung up in all areas to peak at the playoffs.
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| Quote fiddestherhino="fiddestherhino"It can't be a coincidence that we get penalised like mad in every game and we have given away more penalties than any other team in SL (bar 1).
Something needs to be done, our discipline is terrible!
There is no excuse for Ablett chatting back to the ref twice! If this didnt happen we wouldnt have to wait until the last play of the game to win it!'"
Ablett has always been gobbie - he was like that in the academy. I think I saw him sent off at Belle Vue.
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| Quote Puig-Aubert="Puig-Aubert"Ablett has always been gobbie - he was like that in the academy. I think I saw him sent off at Belle Vue.'"
You would have thought the gooby little cockend would have learnt by now don't you?
Refs, especially Ganson, seem to be far less tolerant towards back-chat once they’ve already pinged a team for it which would possible explain why we got marched 10 the second time when Ablett laughed at Ganson the Great.
Saying that Ablett should have known better but in his defence he’s not the sharpest tool in the box now is he?
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| Quote McGuireofrEngland="McGuireofrEngland"Should teams have to adapt to different referees? Thought the rules were the same.'"
They are the same just Ganson applied the rules when they were broken. It would seem the leeds players and fans have a problem with this. Maybe you are not used to being penalised for breaking the rules. If this is the case then there really is a problem.
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