I don't care about Australia, NSW or Necastle. I care about Leeds RLFC, England or GB RL.



I hope Diskin achieves his goals. I admire him for what he did for my club. That admiration is not diminished because I get misty eyed over the achievements of an Aussie for some other club in some other country. I have greater moral fibre than that.



HTH

Who has done that?



I simply said I hope we're as succesful with Buderus as we were with Diskin. Don't you share that hope? Or is it all about getting misty-eyed and wet pantied whilst watching Buderus for you as well, rather than what the team is doing?

I am not getting misty eyed nor wet pantied about Buderus, but your previous statement "only 4 championships to get there" clearly refers to you rating Diskin above Buderus because of his achievements in a Leeds shirt.



Are Ian Kirke's 3 GF winners rings a greater achievement than Lewis Jones single win in 1960-61? Does that mean that you admire Kirke more than Jones?

How many rings has Ian Kirke got? being in a successful side doesn't always make you a top player.



Diskin has a long way to go before he ever achieves anything close to what Buderus has in his career.

Disco will always be a Leeds legend. I respect him for moving on too. I just like to view the game as a whole when viewing players abilities. I've always been a massive nrl fan since you could get the vids in barkers. maybe I have more of an interest as that "some other country" is now my home? But then again as I said Ive always looked at the game as a whole.



the moral fibre line is a belter though mate

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Can you read?



Let me help. Here's what I said.







That isn't about rating players etc. It's simply stating a fact. I want Leeds to be as successful with Buderus as we were with Diskin. Therefore, Buderus will need to win 4 championships, nes pas?



I know how Leeds fans are passionately in love with Aussie legend Buderus but you don't have to spring to your hero's defence when I haven't even attacked him.

1. Buderus - dominated the ruck area, strong defence and got the whole pack going forward plus his own runs from the PTB and classy pass for the Hauraki try



2. Burrow - always an attacking threat to Hull who didn't know if he was going to run at them, pass or kick.



3. = Burgess, Kylie, Delaney, BJB & Sinfield



Closely follwed by the rest in a very good team performance considering the injuries.

Like Batley you should re-read what I put and think again before you leap to your hero's defence needlessly.



Not in this country or at MY club he hasn't.

Harsh but probabley fair

He was excellent, it was like watching a young Diskin.

Gareth your defense of Diskin is admirable but misguided in my view - Diskin was instrumental in the win in 2004 but lucky to be in a great side in 2007/8/9 when he was a pale shadow of the player he was in 2004. Would we have won in 2004 without Diskin doubtful - would we have won 07-09 definitely



To compare his qualities to that of one the finest players in that position in the SL/NRL era is weak at best.

Yes I can read thanks. I can also remember reading plenty of posts from you over the last two years where you were very clear (as above also) that until Buderus had matched Diskin's medal achievements for Leeds you would consider his contribution to be less than that of your Dewsbury based hero.



You also pointed out on a number of occasions that Leeds won 4 championships with Diskin in the squad, which should (rightly to some extent) give him "Legend" status. Buderus hasn't been (and I suspect won't be) with Leeds for long enough to reach 4 championships so your point above is a little "pointless" I would say.



The reason I raised the issue of Kirke and Jones is to highlight how simplistic your point has been, especially given your ridicule of Kirke on countless occasions.