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| Quote WIGAN FOREVER="WIGAN FOREVER"I overheard a saints fan in the pub before the game admitting that apart from Eastmond there is no-one in the team likely to score from inside their own half. Rather than dismissing Wigan's attacking potential, if I was a St Helens supporter I would be looking closer to home because your attack was pedestrian and laboured throughout today.'"
We've spent 18 month discussing that fact since Harry Potter turned up with his broomstick and brushed all the class away. I was commenting on Wigan, so obviously I was going to talk about Wigan.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"We've spent 18 month discussing that fact since Harry Potter turned up with his broomstick and brushed all the class away. I was commenting on Wigan, so obviously I was going to talk about Wigan.'"
As I said, I give you Roberts, Richards etc etc. Just because Sam Tomkins was our main threat today doesn't mean he is our only one. Watch the highlights of the Cas game a few weeks ago see what Roberts and Joel Tomkins in particular can do with the ball in hand.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Not really. On that evidence Wigan don't have the attacking threat to win SL. Good defensive discipline and effort will only get you so far, you'll need to improve a lot if you are to win SL.'"
Your quite clearly posting crap, look at the table and compare Wigan's for and against with everyone else's and you'll see what you wrote is rubbish.
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| 26 (13 to each side) penalties spoiled the game.
I don't think either team showed much attacking threat. Wigans first try came after we forgot to pick the ball up at the back of the scrum (how dumb can you get?) and their second after Fas knocked on when under no pressure whatsoever.
Our 1st try came when Sam Tomkins was on the wing and could not cope with the kick. Our second was TP ploughing over. Then when we had pressure on their line we could not keep hold of the ball.
I think the result was fair and the scoreline summed the game up.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I thought today saw two very evenly matched sides tough it out under some incredibly pedantic refereeing. Wigan are the new Huddersfield, they base their game on gang tackling and slowing the play the ball. Nothing wrong with it, they look very well coached and their defensive discipline and manipulation of the referee was of a very high standard. Their kicking game is also good. Bar Tompkins though they have zero attacking threat and I can see them going the way of Huddersfield and just lacking that bit of attacking threat you need to win SL.
wigan have had the best attack in super league and i believe now have the best ranked defence. questioning the attacking threat is ridiculous
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| Note: Wigan have only played 9 league games and have won nothing. You cannot argue that there was no genuine threat today. The fact is that Saints execution in Wigan's 10 was truly shocking and Wigan were almost as bad. All I'm saying is that you'll need to improve a lot to actually win SL this season.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Note: Wigan have only played 9 league games and have won nothing. You cannot argue that there was no genuine threat today. The fact is that Saints execution in Wigan's 10 was truly shocking and Wigan were almost as bad. All I'm saying is that you'll need to improve a lot to actually win SL this season.'"
you cannot back up anything your saying with any evidence what so ever other than today both teams weren't at their attacking best. conditions, nerves, local derby, all comes into play which is why these games are unpredictable. our attack is superb and our defense is even better. you need to look at the season and evidence over that period before you make comments based on one game.
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| Both sides had very good defence today tbh.
As for attacking threat, not many teams have much of it anymore, defences have improved disproportionately overall in SL for all but the bottom teams this year imo.
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| Quote lothlorian="lothlorian"wigan have had the best attack in super league and i believe now have the best ranked defence. questioning the attacking threat is ridiculous'"
Hudds have the best defence at the moment unless they let in a few more points against Catalan
Next is Wire and Wigan on the same number of points let in.
Wigan have the best points total so far but Wire have scored the most tries.
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| I am sorry to point out that Huddersfield still have the least number of points scored against them, followed by Wigan and Warrington on equal points against. And Wigan have not many more than Warrington in points for.
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| Quote Wire_85="Wire_85"Hudds have the best defence at the moment unless they let in a few more points against Catalan
Next is Wire and Wigan on the same number of points let in.
Wigan have the best points total so far but Wire have scored the most tries.'"
not seen the stats for this week but last week hudds were ten up before being stuffed by saints and we only conceded a single try but ill review it after this weekend. attack = points for not just tries .
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| Quote WIGAN FOREVER="WIGAN FOREVER"IRoberts, Richards, Phelps, Joel Tomkins and O'loughlin are all a danger with the ball in hand as they have proven time and time again so far this season. Not to mention Ridell who didn't play today.'"
Yep, but how many more tries than us did you score today?
We were pretty dismal today and because of that - I mean, we made 15 handling errors for goodness sake! - if you had such an attacking threat you should have ripped us to shreds. But you didn't. So it does not matter what has gone before - maybe those teams were not playing as well as we were (even though we played poorly) - because on the evidence of today, you have no greater attacking threat than we do.
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