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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"icon_biggrin.gifRUMMER:
They are very, very small holes. From a distance the stuff looks solid apparently but it lets air through and so eases the pressure on the structure. However, it doesn't let rain through, which appears to be the problem with the current arrangement!'"
Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.
What the cladding should do, when combined with the roof overhang and 4 metre wall, is make it less likely that water infiltrates in any significant quantity to the concourses.
I suspect the biggest impact will be psychological as people will feel that they are now indoors.
The proof however will be in the pudding, and it will be interesting to see how this innovative solution not only looks but works in real life. If it works well then we may see it used on other new stadium developments.
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| Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.
What the cladding should do, when combined with the roof overhang and 4 metre wall, is make it less likely that water infiltrates in any significant quantity to the concourses.
I suspect the biggest impact will be psychological as people will feel that they are now indoors.
The proof however will be in the pudding, and it will be interesting to see how this innovative solution not only looks but works in real life. If it works well then we may see it used on other new stadium developments.'"
Didn't realise that the original plans had not only the concourses open to the elements but also the rear of seating/standing areas in all stands apart from the south stand.
The cladding appears to cover /screen most of the rear sections of the stand as well as concourse areas unless I've got the plans upside down?
It's not very much of a shock that the rain was coming in but is a surprise that this was not covered in the original design when you are spending cicra £16M..
Hope it works . 
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| Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.'"
Where does it say the holes will be 5mm? Aren't there 3mm options? Also, the degree of waterproofing will also be influenced by the angle of the cladding won't it? If it lays flat then surely the chances are higher of water getting through than if it is vertical? I can't tell from the photos whether the breeze block wall is lined up directly with the back of the stands. If it is then presumably the cladding would simply link the top of the wall with the base of the back of the stand?
Obviously, if the two are not lined up then there would need to be a roof between the wall and the cladding. Would a solid flat roof between the wall and the cladding influence wind resistence or does that just apply to vertical surfaces? I'm no engineer or physicist so I don't know.
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| On the official website someone asked whether season ticket holders will get to see the stadium first.
The response from Saints was that season ticket holders will be invited to an event in December.
What is this exactly? A friendly? Charity game? Or just a 'come have a look around so we can tick a box in a health & safety requirement' type of thing?
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| Saddened, I would imagine we will find out in December when an invitation drops through our letterboxes!
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| So.... are we having a boxing day game or not?
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"On the official website someone asked whether season ticket holders will get to see the stadium first.
The response from Saints was that season ticket holders will be invited to an event in December.
What is this exactly? A friendly? Charity game? Or just a 'come have a look around so we can tick a box in a health & safety requirement' type of thing?'"
You have to have an event with a smaller crowd to get the safety certificate for any new stand/stands, so it'll be the same for a stadium. Probably just have a friendly on boxing day or something similar where season ticket holders can get in for free.
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| Quote The Chair Maker="The Chair Maker"Something with 5mm holes cannot be waterproof.
If you doubt this get a sieve and poor water into it while placing said object over your head. If you are right you will remain dry. If you are not you will get a soaking.
What the cladding should do, when combined with the roof overhang and 4 metre wall, is make it less likely that water infiltrates in any significant quantity to the concourses.
I suspect the biggest impact will be psychological as people will feel that they are now indoors.
The proof however will be in [the pudding, and it will be interesting to see how this innovative solution not only looks but works in real life. If it works well then we may see it used on other new stadium developments.'"
shoudn't be the proof be in the cladding not pudding C M il'l get me coat  COYS
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"On the official website someone asked whether season ticket holders will get to see the stadium first.
The response from Saints was that season ticket holders will be invited to an event in December.
What is this exactly? A friendly? Charity game? Or just a 'come have a look around so we can tick a box in a health & safety requirement' type of thing?'"
It's scheduled for 9th December.
There'll be 'stuff' going on on the pitch, but not a friendly as far as I know.
More like an open day, with entertainment, as I understand it.
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| Quote Cragganmore Kid="Cragganmore Kid"It's scheduled for 9th December.
There'll be 'stuff' going on on the pitch, but not a friendly as far as I know.
More like an open day, with entertainment, as I understand it.'"
Awesome. Am I allowed to boo Lance Hohaia?
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Awesome. Am I allowed to boo Lance Hohaia?'"
I'd expect nothing less.
And a chant, to the tune of "The Addams Family"
His name is Lance Hohaia
He's No Martin Offiah
If He Was Good He'd Be A Wire
Saints Recruitment Policy
Der der der
Sack The Board
Der der der
Sack The Board
Der der der der, der der der der, der der der der
Sack The Board.
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