I prefer to see a player picked on merit. Based on this years performances, meli deserves to be picked before foster, regardless of age, reputation, place of birth etc. what you say certainly matters when contract extensions are concerned, then age and potential need to be considered, but when a coach is picking a team from his available squad, he must do it on merit. That's not to say that I would personally give cap space to either foster or meli, but that's a different argument altogether.

No he doesn't, that is the job for Brown. McManus shouldn't be deciding the squad composition at all, he should be providing the funds, and if necessary doing the negotiations, but Brown should be solely responsible for who comes in and out.

That's an understatement.

Why is Lomax the most obvious? I don't get this line of reasoning at all. Lomax is so much a stand off as to be unreal but people keep wanting to put him at fullback. In Makinson we have a player who coped in his first Grand Final when dropped into the position having turned the game around in our favour, and he did a decent job there given his lack of senior experience in the position. We were winning while he was there until Shenton went off and we had to rely on Meli to defend our left edge. How can anyone then say Lomax is the most obvious fullback? It baffles me. Really.

I'm more inclined to wait and see how certain players perform with a new coach before having a clear out.

Spot on buster. McGuire turned a bunch of underperforming journeymen into champions by introducing organisation, and that is still paying off today. The Wigan squad, bar possibly the turd Tomkins, is no better, man for man than the Saints squad. If Brown is a top coach, he will work with what he has got. The likes of Perry, Shenton, Hohaia, Laffranchi are all internationals, he just has to get them to play like they still should be.

Genius. Comedy gold. You're typing this stuff but you can't believe it, surely?





Only Puletua and Roby would get into a first choice Wigan 17 on current form. We were poor on Saturday and still beat you comfortably. Are you seriously suggesting Tomkins - the best player in SL - is only "possibly" better than Wellens?





You have some decent players but your coaches are way behind the "Ape" and his team (you lot would do well to quit criticising SW, he's doing a really good job and it just makes you look as RL ignorant as the average Wire fan) so you aren't getting the best out of them. Added to this, your team lacks a real will to win and the continued selection of the likes of Hohaia and Wellens is as misguided as it is welcome (to Wigan fans!).

His argument is based on quality of player, not current form. It's quite possible that a good coach (and we believe we have one for next year) could bring the best out of our undoubtedly underperforming players this year, and if so it's quite possible that more than just TP and Roby would be shoe-ins for a merged Saints / Wigan side (god forbid that should ever happen!!).



Players like Perry, Shenton, Hohaiah, LMS, Wilkin are without question currently failing to replicate the performances that prompted us to sign them. Should a coach be able to relight the fire in them, they are 5 international quality players. Not to mention the improvements to the young kids in Lomax, Gaskell, Makinson, Foster, et al that a top coach can influence.



We're miles away... on current form. With each set of players firing, we're not quite so far.

Whilst it's all fine to pull the trigger on players in a forum as we all know the law and finance will not allow it.



You can't terminate contracts mid flow without shelling out and if you did the law would take you to pieces.



If you could terminate contracts then I would line up as follows



1. Lomax

2. Makinson

3. Turner

4. Wheeler (if he can stay fit if not a new centre)

5. New winger

6. Gaskell

7. New scrum half

8. La Franki

9. Roby

10. New Prop

11. Manu

12. Sia

13. TP



14. LMS

15. New Prop

16. New 2nd Rower

17. Josh Jones

7.

The truth is that many have believed the Saints publicity machine.



Hohiah - world class halfback.

Perry - enforcer prop.

Laffranchi - top class prop.

Solioa - world class tough player, (46 metres only 13 tackles, and 4 missed tackles, Hock laughed his b*ll*cks off at him on Saturday)

Wheeler - top class young player.

Flanagan - a major coup signing from Australia.

Roby - best hooker in the world.

Shenton - best centre in England.



Wake up and smell the coffee.

Its possible. Wello we shouldnt renew. Shenton could be offered to Cas free of charge, he'd be happier and so would they. Lance and Perry are more difficult. Unless they and their wives/girlfriend are homesick there's little we can do, but we can make life harder so they just leave. Lance or Perry wouldnt sit out their contracts in the reserves, they'd go home.

Hock had by far the superior game, but he took about 5 backwards steps when Soliola got in his face so hardly laughing at him. Watch the match and count them if you don't believe me, I can assure you I was laughing my testicles off at the time.