Does that mean you think Chris Hicks is a better winger than Jason Robinson was?

Despite my natural antipathy towards all things Pie I consider Faz to be the outstanding British forward of his generation.

His commitment and drive to win were unquestioned and he had a tremendous workrate.

If I was picking a British team of players I have seen in my 34 years of serious RL watching he would be in it.



Still not as good a player as John Woods though.......

For me Farrell only lived up to the hype when he moved to prop forward for the goons. He carried that team for a couple of years,fooked his body up in the process.

Before that he was a good player but nowhere near as "great" as some made out.

I agree, he was a great prop, but not creative enough for a great loose

You mean the snippet in today's Indie?



All of about 6 lines...

Talk $hite as usual?

Powerful adjectives are all too readily used these days. Lets put it into context. Farrell was a Wigan great. He led the team exceptionally and they miss the injection of pure will to win (as well as obvious talent) that he had in the derbies we played against them. He was IMO a better leader than Scully.



Scully however enjoyed a better record in terms of performances against Australia.



Even during the nadir of 2003 when we were walloped by anout 60 points, he was the only player to emerge with any credit.



He was the one player the Australian press always gave respect to. Farrell never seemed to enjoy the same respect. I think the golden boot explained some of this. It was Martyn Sadler and co's way of recognising a great club player, but as so often is the case, unfortunately one who was not the same player at international level and the Australians realised this.



That is not to say Farrell was poor, in seriousness. He was obviously more able than most of the current set of forwards, but like Radlinski, nowhere near the type of player Wigan fans in la la land would have you believe.

Youngest forward ever to be selected for Great Britain RL.

Youngest forward ever to captain Great Britain RL.

Winner of the Golden Boot.



PLUS



Farrell OBE

4 Challenge Cups

5 Championships

4 Premierships

Twice man of Steel

4 times included in Super league Dream team

For Wigan

111 tries

1326 goals

19 drop goals

3115 points.



Scully

Double MOS Winner

Super League Dream Team 2001, 2002 and 2004

Super League Grand Final Winner 1999, 2000, 2002 and 2006

Challenge Cup Winner 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008

World Club Challenge Winner 2001, 2007

Farrell was an awesome player for Wigan, were ever he played.



He never translated his form to GB though. He either got in the way and tried to be too much of a ball player, or operated in the forwards and didn't make much impact (in comparison to his play at club level).



If you compare that to somebody like Peacock, who I think plays even better when he pulls on a GB shirt.

Slightly loaded in Farrell's favour but does look more equal when laid out like this

Stop repeating yourself ald rogues your cracking up son.