Wrestlign is part N parcel of the rugby training these days though isnt it, swear it started back in 1996 were wrestle coaches would come in and show the club how to do it. Ballet lessons were tried to, but not sure we still do those anymore.

Need to get a better coach for it then! Its hardly surprising Hudds are the best at it when their coach has come over from a league where it was the norm.

I agree, get Brock Lesner over from UFC to teach some moves on our kids.. Get O'Loughlin in a choke, drop him & watch him tap out!! BOOM.. WHAMO.. love a bit of UFC. Maybe we could sign Kimbo Slice at Prop





Were too nice in the tackle, usually 1 or 2 players at the most & I've seen us help other players up!! Were too soft.. Lets wrestle aaaagggghhhh

Yeh that's right, he said he hasn't got bloomin' clue what to do and would I pop on here and see if Syd's got any pearls.





Seriously though.... I think the kick to corner is right. However, what about the offload? After drawing in three or four defenders wouldn't a well timed offload find gaps in the line?

I think that you're blinkered. All teams do it. Three or four in the tackle when they can, and then peel off one at a time.



The way to stop it. Instruct the referree to allow say a maximum of five seconds from the tackle being completed to the ruck being cleared.

Really, seriously, were too nice (except KC)

3 or 4 in a tackle... never seen it la

It would in theory

But that's just not going to happen though is it? If all teams fully adopt this as the natural form of play then Super League is going to be boring as hell.



Anyway Saints are better than than that. We don't follow, we lead.

Fed up of seeing TP and Pryce get nailed yet have the ball available, and no saitns player there to take advantage. Shaun Edwards would have a field day... Danny Mc Guire to actualy.



Kick to the wings. Off loads in gang tackles and the back up being there. Thats two Potter now has. Maybe the attacking player milks the penalty a bit more, sneakily holds down a defender on top of him whihc leads to the other defenders being slow to get off, PENALTY !

The problem we have especially in the 2nd half of this season is we don,t have any go forward (lack of props), this means most of the tackles are "surrender" ones which allows the referee and defence more time to layon. Our quick the balls dissapear and the backs receive the ball under pressure. When Cayless and Maurie provided the go forward we were up and running and gaps appearing, we need these players back pronto.

Yep you're right, offloading has to be a full team tactic with two players in close support, waiting to catch the offloaded ball. And the line waiting for the ball to come out in a split second.



It would be a very difficult tactic to get right as a counter to the flopathon. But it could really catch that defence on the back foot, especially with three or four defenders pulled in all thinking they're about to have a nice lie down for a while on top of TP.

If Daniel Anderson was here this nonsense would never have happened.



He would have been in the press calling the referee names and suggesting in passing that he always failed to control the play the ball area. We would then have had wizzy-bang quick play the balls and won by 40.



Meanwhile Potter just sits there nervously hoping no one speaks to him as he's too shy to reply.