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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"Although there are similarities between the Harris and Orford deals there are many differences too.
Harris, on the nod from his legal team, was the one who said he didn't have a contract which is why Caisley went in for him (as well as to p off El Presidente). I think, given the view of Harris and his legal team, it's fair to say that it can't have been a clear cut decision as to whether he had a binding contract with Leeds, which isn't the case with Orford who knows full well he does have a binding contract.'"
I don't think it is helpful to overanalyse the comparison. The result is that a player under contract to one club was personally sued for a lot of money by that club for breaking the contract. (though we don't know what became of the case)
Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"In truth Leeds didn't want Harris back, ... However, with Orford it is quite different and I don't think there is any doubt that we want him to return, '"
Not relevant. Leeds' case depended on them claiming, in legal papers, that they wanted him back and Bradford foiled them. You may think they lied in Court papers but I wouldn't recommend it.
Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"From what I remember of the T&A reports at the time, I think Leeds were suing Harris, along with the Bulls who were also suing Harris, and bringing up the rear Harris who was suing his legal team (without whom, none of this would probably have left the ground).'"
You've a bad memory, then. I never heard of the Bulls suing Harris, nor did I ever read any report of Harris "suing his legal team".
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| I was given to understand that Harris's Agent at that time was a Solicitor, Caisley is a Solicitor who in his haste to put one over Caddick more than Hetherington ignored the fine print! Also apparently that if nothing had happened for a further 6 weeks Harris would have been a free agent and cost nothing save what he negotiated with the Club!
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"
You've a bad memory, then. I never heard of the Bulls suing Harris, nor did I ever read any report of Harris "suing his legal team".'"
FA both were mentioned as 'options' in newspaper reports. dont think anything ever came of it but they were definitely mentioned at the time.
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| Quote mat="mat"FA both were mentioned as 'options' in newspaper reports. dont think anything ever came of it but they were definitely mentioned at the time.'"
Shooting Hetherington up his personal harris with an elephant gun would equally be an option, but I was responding to the claims that the Bulls [iwere[/i suing Harris or he his lawyers, and not discussing options.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"icon_eek.gif
We should have learned all that. When we were playing the Parramatta role with Harris, as you said, Leeds made the right noises, but clearly "demanding" fees etc didn't happen. They were clearly happy to save nigh on 200k p.a. for Harris's wage, and just did a bit of posturing to save face. They didn't sue us, and near on bankrupt us, nor did they sue Harris.
I imagined it all.'"
Your irony would work....if it applied to this case.
It doesn't.
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Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"I don't think it is helpful to overanalyse the comparison. The result is that a player under contract to one club was personally sued for a lot of money by that club for breaking the contract. (though we don't know what became of the case)
Not relevant. Leeds' case depended on them claiming, in legal papers, that they wanted him back and Bradford foiled them. You may think they lied in Court papers but I wouldn't recommend it.
You've a bad memory, then. I never heard of the Bulls suing Harris, nor did I ever read any report of Harris "suing his legal team".'"
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ust_Bulls/
It's in the sixth paragraph from the bottom of the article.
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Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"I don't think it is helpful to overanalyse the comparison. The result is that a player under contract to one club was personally sued for a lot of money by that club for breaking the contract. (though we don't know what became of the case)
Not relevant. Leeds' case depended on them claiming, in legal papers, that they wanted him back and Bradford foiled them. You may think they lied in Court papers but I wouldn't recommend it.
You've a bad memory, then. I never heard of the Bulls suing Harris, nor did I ever read any report of Harris "suing his legal team".'"
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ust_Bulls/
It's in the sixth paragraph from the bottom of the article.
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| I had the same recollection Bulliac.
What also stands out in that article is the alleged £1/2m for Leeds' legal costs to date. In the context of the value placed upon the "effect of the recession" as PH called it a\t the last forum.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"I had the same recollection Bulliac.
What also stands out in that article is the alleged £1/2m for Leeds' legal costs to date. In the context of the value placed upon the "effect of the recession" as PH called it a\t the last forum.'"
Well, I still haven't heard of any action brought by Harris against his lawyers. If it had actually been issued, I'd have thought there would have been big publicity, but who knows.
So far as the 500K goes, this was by no means Leeds' costs to date, it was just the costs of the preliminary issue hearing which the Bulls, to their amazement, lost. So the award of costs would only have been in respect of costs Leeds had incurred in dealing with the preliminary issue, and not of the whole case, which would therefore be a whole lot more. What they would have been by the time the case folded, I shudder to think, and whatever they were, double it, as the Bulls had a legal team too and they won't have been working for nothing either.
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| ?? How come Bulls paid Leeds £68k for the costs of the preliminary hearing, as soon as Mr Justice Gray's Decision was released?
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"?? How come Bulls paid Leeds £68k for the costs of the preliminary hearing, as soon as Mr Justice Gray's Decision was released?'"
I don't know what the figure was. It would normally be assessed by the judge on the dya the prelim hearing was concluded, though.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"I don't know what the figure was. It would normally be assessed by the judge on the dya the prelim hearing was concluded, though.'"
I lied. It was only [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/archive/2005/07/20/Bradford+District+Archive/8080889.Bulls_lose_Harris_court_battle/ =#800000£64k.[/url
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"I lied. It was only [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/archive/2005/07/20/Bradford+District+Archive/8080889.Bulls_lose_Harris_court_battle/=#800000£64k.[/url'"
So the judge basically gave Caisley a direct answer to the 64,000 dollar question, then? =#FFFFFFExcept it was pounds not dollars

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