I don't think Anderson would've fared any better with this set of players. Anderson was lucky to have a peak Cunningham, Long and Wellens along with Jamie Lyon, Cayless, Paul Anderson etc who were great signings for the club.



Potter hasn't had those luxuries and has had to build a team around young players with barely any signings made.



For me, he's done well with the resources available to him.

leon we could bring back



but what about sykes ??? 3 years and we want him to play 6 cause he cannot play centre

How do you know that Potter won't move him back to the centres? Or use him for cover?





Its highly unlikely that we'll sign Leon anyway, but if he was available and wanted to come back, then Sykes wouldn't be any sort of competition for Leon at 6

sykes no competition but then where do you play him ? plenty of cover in the cetres...platt nero crookes wardle

true though very very unlikley that we get leon

You Bulls have been suffering for a few years now,I see no end to it with Potter's appointment.In his two years as coach of Saints he has served some of the most uninspiring rugby I have seen in over 35 years of watching them.It has got to the stage where I can not be bothered to drive the 25 miles up the East Lancs to home games eg today when I will be watching my son playing cricket instead

And yet you're 3rd in the table and have scored more points than every other side bar Wigan and Wire. I dread to think what the Saints fans will do when they really do hit a bad spell. I think most other fans in SL would swap places with your 3rd in the table uninspiring St Helens team.



I think perhaps the reason that a lot of Saints fans have blown it way out of proportion is partly due to the success that Wigan are enjoying right now. After quite a few years of mocking the Wigan club, they now look primed for some success themselves in the not too distant future.

Loads of Saints fans are behaving just like loads of our fairweather fans did (and do).



Your forum is looking rather like ours did as soon as we stopped winning trophies.

TBF that occured even before we stopped winning trophies. the 2005 campaign brought plenty of whinging and calls for Noble to be sacked on this forum.

Remarkable that a team so limited (no plan B, remember that one?) ever won a game, let alone a treble.

TBF when we won the treble we didn't actually require a Plan B. What used to amuse me is that when we scored 40-50 points in a game it was due to the fact we had buillied out opponents into submission with boring one out rugby and relied purely on brute strenghtbut whenever anyone else did put up similar scores it wa due to their expansive play.



Granted our main strenght was that we had a huge pack and our backs weren't much smallerand we used to dominate the forward battle more often than not, however there was far more to those bulls sides than the five drives and a kick one out rugby merchants with which they were often portrayed.

To understand the problems at Saints you'd need to understand the style of play more. People make excuses and say Anderson wouldnt have done better etc etc but I disagree, I think we have alot of talented players (with natural style) who have won games despite Potter rather than because of him.

Bulls were anything but five drives and a kick. We moved the ball as good as anybody and it was a common thing to see Les, Leon, Robbie and Withers go in from distance or on the end of a slick passing movement.

People that claimed Bulls were one up merchants were watching something completley different.