Ah right, good job we had some players in the 4 nations then isn't it and Quins didn't.



Oh bollox, I've done it again. Must be that time of the month.

We had Bradford developed players there.



Hit me with all this London talent?



Please do, im waiting.x

Answer the question.

Will you throw your mouse mat at me if I don't?



Jog on Mavis.

We'll just take it that you dont have the answers.

Don't feed the troll. I did and it got me nowhere!

GH obviously wouldn't make a decision to deliberately derail his own club but everyone makes mistakes at some stage. Similarly, Peacock, Sinfield and Senior may speak highly of Brian McDermott's coaching ability but, as an example, Steve McNamara received similar plaudits when he took over from Brian Noble. In fact, some senior players still stand right behind McNamara as a coach despite his record at Bradford. It's good to listen to your players but sometimes their views can be clouded by other factors (maybe the player feeling they 'owe' the coach something for a specific role in their development) and somethimes they can just be wrong.



Personally I feel Brian Mac will do alright at Leeds but it's never a simple case of fact and fiction. A number of factors will arise to determine his relative success or failure. But cherry-picking facts to suit your argument for McDermott while ignoring the undeniable positive abilities possessed by Mick Potter is a little disingenuous. Both have pros and cons as coaches and both should go fine with their respective clubs this season.

You've got no answers.

You're just being rude there considering you had a pop at someone earlier in the thread for using the phrase 'the likes of' when picking out examples of Leeds players. You're obviously a knowledgeable bloke, why resort to cheap insults?

He is a she, apparentely.

I sustained my point.



At what point do I need your assistance or suggestions? Oh that's right, I don't. So on ya go flower with your new alias.

My real alias? What's your real alias? Not that I should have to explain myself to anyone on an anonymous internet forum but I very rarely post on here mainly because I very rarely feel the desire to. I read posts with interest and was engaged enough by this thread to contribute.



I could easily turn your question back on you to read: 'What are McDermott's undeniable positive abilities? Losing multiple games.' But that would just be futile.



If you really need me to point things out to you. He was an accomplished player and two-time Dally M Medallist, served a solid coaching apprenticeship under Matty Elliott, has coached at both junior and senior levels and has a reasonable track record of aiding young players' development, improved an upstart Catalans Dragons side enough to take them to a Challenge Cup final and a top-three finish (heights they have failed to come close to since) and reached two Grand Finals with Saints.

Yes, he lost both of those finals and that is an obvious blot on his copybook. But just as Potter has his faults, so does McDermott, something you seem to forget at times.