Quote ridlerbull="ridlerbull"I'm not. RBS and Bulls' statements in the press contradict one another (www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17536053) so I know neither what they have done, nor whether what they have done was wrong or not. However, there is discussion on their sponsorship page that does sit well in light of what has happened over the last couple of days, and it sticks in my craw.'" RBS's rugby sponsorship focuses (rightly or wrongly) on Rugby Union. In any case, there's a huge difference in "connecting with communities" through projects like Cricket Force for local AMATEUR clubs and a commercial banking relationship with a PROFESSIONAL club with an annual turnover (reportedly) in excess of £3m.

Quote ridlerbull="ridlerbull"I'm not. RBS and Bulls' statements in the press contradict one another (www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17536053) so I know neither what they have done, nor whether what they have done was wrong or not. However, there is discussion on their sponsorship page that does sit well in light of what has happened over the last couple of days, and it sticks in my craw.'" RBS's rugby sponsorship focuses (rightly or wrongly) on Rugby Union. In any case, there's a huge difference in "connecting with communities" through projects like Cricket Force for local AMATEUR clubs and a commercial banking relationship with a PROFESSIONAL club with an annual turnover (reportedly) in excess of £3m.

Haven't RBS been bought out by Banco Santander ?

Er...No.



You own it.

The version of events I heard this evening suggests quite the opposite, and supports what I was told earlier.

Wish I did Bulls would not have a problem lol



Understand what you mean

Yes santander are taking over RBS,told so by a Bulls fan who works in santander on monday in Bradford city centre.

She was gutted about the situ !

Hi,



RBS are not getting taken over by Santander.



You're getting mixed up with the (enforced) branch sale.



RBS have sold 318 UK branches to Santander.



Hope this clears things up.



M

Thanks for clearing that up.



Does this mean that RBS is monitoring this board for the moment?

Well done RBS



You have a history of irresponsible behaviour and I am pleased to see you are trying to move away this now that you re playing with our money.

Yes RBS is watching you........



Seriously, I hold some shares in RBS, but I'm also a Bulls fan.



I’m not entirely familiar with the situation, the Bullbuilder guys seem to know more.



But from an outsider’s prospective, we seem to have sold our only asset (Odsal lease) to cover the RFL debt. However, this deal has resulted in the overdraft facility been withdraw by RBS, as the Bulls no longer hold any securities. RBS have made similar decisions with other businesses, such as GAME and even Gordon Ramsey.



Seems when we sold the lease, the board were caught between a rock and a hard place. How we got to that position is what I would like answering!

I'm struggling to work out how we were physically able to sell the ground lease if it was the main security on the overdraft. Sorry if I'm biased because I hate RBS and love Braford Bulls but it doesn't seem as simple as RBS are making out.



Also if Ryan Duckett is to be believed they were offered securities last week by the directors last week. From my experience RBS seem to be quite inflexible nowadays in their lending to businesses.

RBS' Corporate Banking Division claims: -



"No bank is doing more to support UK businesses than RBS"



Regardless of the securities issues, it doesn't seem that way to me...

It was not our only asset. Far from it. And it was IMO an asset of little value to a bank in the event of insolvency. Also, I do not believe RBS's explanation that they pulled the facility for the reason they said. I suspect (although do not know) they saw the big receipt from the RFL, and took the opportunity to cut and run while they had the chance. In also suspect that this was all the domino effect from the RFL wanting the loan repaid earlier than expected (however that arose). I was told several years ago by a senior RBS official (I was in the middle of negotiating a £3m facility at the time...) that they RBS had no appetite for lending to RL clubs, and wanted to exit the sector.



But we do not have concrete facts, so I'm hesitant to pillory RBS as it stands - especially since they are owned by the taxpayer, and we'd scream blue murder if they lent to someone we saw as a poor credit risk!

...is the right answer.



And RBS are our current bankers, so I can speak from the same experience.