Put Sinfield at Lock or Hooker then, he probably played his best Tests at Hooker, Roby could come off the bench.

Half back and Standoff are the lynchpins in a game, all great teams have had champion halves that wielded the team around.

Ok Hookers and Fullbacks are important too in a different way, you rarely see a top team that does not have great halves. Its been an area lacking in England's game for a long time, England's halves have never been man for man as good as Australia's for what feels like an eternity.

Those positions decide the big games and it is no coincidence that the Halves are the players that win most awards and MOM etc,

Kevin does a great job at Leeds but the intensity week in week out and quality of more than half of the opposition in SL makes him appear more capable than he is compared to the best Halves in the World.



That's just my two bob.

Put him where ever you want, a position is only a name, Sinfield is still going o do what he does, call Tomkins a prop, he is still only going to do what Tomkins does.

Seem to think a certain Jason Smith did rather well in the NRL with Canberra after finishing with Hull at the age of 33 (finished at the Cowboys at almost 36.) He wasn't fast or mobile & a bit overweight as well as still a bit crocked from injuries so could only do 40 mins a game max. Whilst at their best I'd have JS anytime over Sinfield, Sinfield is not too disimilar and would command a role in many NRL sides.

That he may not get into all sides is moot, his influence on games not just in his rugby play are there to see.

Who'se fault was it when the super stars of the south did play us?



[uSinfield's International Record V Australia[/u

Oct 28 2000 LOST - England 2 Australia 22

Nov 11 2001 WON - GB 20 Australia 12

Nov 17 2001 LOST - GB 12 Australia 40

Nov 24 2001 LOST - GB 8 Australia 28

Jul 12 2002 LOST - Australia 64 GB 10

Nov 15 2003 LOST - GB 20 Australia 23

Nov 22 2003 LOST - GB 12 Australia 18

Nov 6 2005 LOST - GB 6 Australia 20

Nov 19 2005 LOST - GB 14 Australia 26

Nov 2 2008 LOST - Australia 52 England 4

Oct 31 2009 LOST - England 16 Australia 26

Nov 14 2009 LOST - England 16 Australia 46

Nov 5 2011 LOST - England 20 Australia 36

Nov 12 2011 LOST - England 8 Australia 30

I think anybody who wanted to say a loss was somebody’s ‘fault’ would be showing a pretty poor understanding of international sport.

Did he play on his own against them, no wonder he lost that many.



How many has NRL legends Adrian Morley, Sam Burgess and Gareth Ellis won against the Aussies?

I think anybody who wanted to imply that Sinfield was deprived of international success in 2012 because the superstars of the south wouldn't play would be showing not only a pretty poor understanding of international sport, but also of Sinfield's less than enviable international historical record and lack of credibility as a player at that level.

Did Sinfield play on his own for the Leeds Rhinos? No wonder they've won that many SL titles from 5th





Care to list all those international performances by Sinfield against Australia where he's demonstrated any world class qualities at that level which may warrant the awarding of the Golden Boot best player in the world award at any time? An award which incidentally places "particular emphasis on performances at international level"... or at least it used to do.





3, 0 and 2 times respectively, but I'm not aware of any of those players ever being awarded the Golden Boot best player in the world award either

His international credibility is a subjective opinion, yours is he lacks it. Most people would probably think that your opinion lacks credibility, especially the corner you have painted yourself into regarding England and Leeds Rhino’s especially has led to some fairly incredulous opinions that you have put forth. But both my opinion on your credibility and yours on Kevin Sinfields are irrelevant because it is impossible to say what would have happened because they didn’t play, it is unarguable fact, that Australia’s decision not to play, and the disappointingly potical proposal from NZ did deprive Kevin Sinfield of the opportunity for international success against the major southern hemisphere sides and as such it is clearly correct to say that it wasn’t his fault he didn’t have success against those nations this year.



Sinfield did experience international success this year by the way. The international game doesn’t start and stop with the Australians, however much they, and their fanboys believe it does.

So you think the 2012 Golden Boot winner should be based on previous years games and results? strange.

Perhaps he was denied. He's won MOM the last two times England have played New Zealand over here. If we could've had a 3 game England vs NZ series their's a good chance he might have been Man of the Series.

Who awarded him Man of the Match in the game played in England?