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| Quote Ian 77 Redux="Ian 77 Redux"I'm sure I'm oversimplifying it but I don't think you can have free movement between two divisions when one is full time and the other is part time. Too much to do in too little time.'"
Surely the same argument should be applied to the franchising evaluation then? A Championship club cannot be expected to have the same standard of youth development and community work as a Super League team. The RFL even admitted this in the run up to the announcements. With that in mind how is one supposed to compete for a license? The RFL have said that the best team will get promoted in three years but they have not and will not define the term "best team". They will twist the process however they want to get the team they want.
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| Quote dids858="dids858"Maybe the fans of Halifax should remember the last time they were in Super League and the mess that was made by the club in trying to stay in Super League.'"
Yes, we ran out of money and had to put out a weakened team. The result of this was that we got relegated. Went back to the drawing board and built a strong club in a poor division with little income.
Wakey ran out of money and currently have a weakened team. The result of this? Another three years in the top division.
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| And what, we should put an ill prepared, ill financed Halifax team into SL and listen to them bitch each week about how Bradford are stealing all their fans?
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| Quote roughyedspud="roughyedspud"i think the point is teams like widnes,leigh & halifax busted a gut to meet the criteria and spent millions in the process........where as the likes of wakefield & castleford have done bugger all but got in
does'nt look good does it? why would anyone want to invest in a championship club?
on the subject of P&R........how would a play off game between the championship champions and the team that finishes bottom of superleague sit with you lot?'" Im not sure what Leigh or Halifax did to 'bust a gut' or where the millions they spent went?
I would have a lot more sympathy with 'Fax had they actually bust a gut, tried something ambitious and really gone for it, but they didnt really did they. They would have only just scraped the minimum standards.
Fax had the opportunity to take a franchise from Wakefield, instead they are moaning because Wakefield didnt give it away.
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| Unlike the women of Wakefield, who do lol
nail on head there, simple answer is that will everything taken into account, Fax werent better than Wakefield, they might be as good as, but they arent better and thats what they need to do.
In three years, if they stick to their guns, they will be in without a doubt.
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| The higher you build your barriers...the taller I become!
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| A return to P+R would be great, I can't see any advantage to franchising to the game as a whole
plenty of myths about what franchising prevents that have been shown to be wrong already and most of the problems that P+R was blamed for can be solved without losing P+R
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| I'd love to see P&R back (with sensible caveats). However, I would probably settle for a transparent franchise system where the RFL are held accountable for their decisions and are made to explain exactly why they have come to the conclusions they have.
Right now, the question is why where Halifax worse than the other 13 franchise applications? The answer from the RFL, "Because we said so".
There is no transparency and their is far too much relying on the unmeasurable.
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| Why has this decended into another Trin vs Fax fight. Unless Im mistaken Trin were in good company receiving a grade C licence and no facts are in the public domain suggesting that Wakefield had the 14th best bid. Am I wrong?
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| Quote Code13="Code13"Unlike the women of Wakefield, who do lol
nail on head there, simple answer is that will everything taken into account, Fax werent better than Wakefield, they might be as good as, but they arent better and thats what they need to do.
In three years, if they stick to their guns, they will be in without a doubt.'"
We've already discussed this on another thread
What exactly do Fax have to achieve to guarantee getting a SL franchise in 2015 ?
You didn't answer last time , maybe you can have a better try this time
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"We've already discussed this on another thread
What exactly do Fax have to achieve to guarantee getting a SL franchise in 2015 ?
You didn't answer last time , maybe you can have a better try this time'"
They have to be at the level of the top club. If they want to be guaranteed a franchise, be at the level of Leeds, Wigan, Warrington or Hull FC.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"They have to be at the level of the top club. If they want to be guaranteed a franchise, be at the level of Leeds, Wigan, Warrington or Hull FC.'"
Bloody hell , a simple answer to a simple question , are you feeling ill ?
So we need to be competitive in SL and then we might be considered for SL ?
That might work
A shoe in then if that's all it needs 
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