We actually had 9 players out if you include injuries - we just rested 5.

Nothing to do with "disrespect".



Just a decision that backfired on Wane. Badly. Serves him right, and he'll know that.



The real disrespect is by those who attribute Widnes' win solely to Wane's dumb (with hindsight) decision, IMO. The game still had to be won.



Same as ours did against HKR - went into the game with ten of the first team squad injured, two out on season-long loan and two more injured early doors in the match. Yet we won. I suspect for the same sort of reasons that Widnes did.



Bollox to "disrespect" - lets show respect where its due?

As others have said it's not disrespect. If you'd heard Wane's comments before the game he certainly wasn't taking Widnes lightly. He wasn't 'disrespecting' Widnes but putting faith in the players that he picked.



Given that Wigan were 18 points up at one point and only lost by a late drop goal and missed a potential game winning penalty he was certainly right to think that the team he put out was capable of a win. The issue for Wigan wasn't a lack of ability from the players on the field it was the fact that every time we went a couple of tries up our discipline suddenly became dreadful and they were piggy backed up the field with consecutive penalties.

Phil Clarke loves to bang on about how costly back to back penalties can be and Wigan were guilty of that time and time again and were making it much easier for Widnes than it should have been. The players should take the blame for the performance (the senior players as they were letting the team down most) rather than Shaun Wane.



The bottom line for Wigan is that quite a few young players have to step up this year to replace the likes of Carmont, Finch and Leuluai. I'm not sure a steady approach to bringing young players through is going to help too much in the long run, so I don't blame the coach for wanting to find out how the youngsters cope as quickly as possible.

Actually I've since been on and you're right there are some posts which say that. I disagree with them, mind.

Cherry Pie talks sense IMO. And interesting (for an outsider) assessment on what went wrong. On reflection, scratch my comment about it being a dumb decision.



CP - are you a "Simon's Cat" fan too? I've GOT Simon's Cat - although its called Zac.

Thanks! Not many other Wigan fans seem to agree with me though!



And yes, Simon's Cat is rather brilliant. Never would have found it funny before I had to look after my friends cat once; then it all made sense.

It's not what people say it's what they do !



Words are cheap.



Apparently on GMR, Wane said he "might do the same" cock- up against London as he did Sunday, playing too many youngsters. So yes, he did take Widnes lightly.

RFL fix? wouldnt suprise me.

Obviously would suprise everybody. Would a team wanting to lose go up 36-18 in the second half? Hate how much this sort of thing has been said, give Widnes some credit!

Talking of disrespect, ignore Wigan and watch the Leeds game this weekend.Ryan Bailey shoves the referee with both hands; Gareth Hock grabbed a ref's arm once and almost got the guillotine for it.

Oh dear. Silverwood was in the way of the defensive line close to the try line. In the Hock case IIRC it was after Wigan had conceded a try and Ian Smith was walking away when Hock lost it and pulled him back.

But don't worry about little things like facts when Ryan Bailey's involved.

It's so obvious that I don't know why anyone hasn't brought it up before!



RFL: Right Wigan, we want you to lose this week, because it will make a good story. So don't try as hard. What? What's in it for you? You do as your told. Right, get on with it.



Players: Right away sir!



Half time: Right, good first half, no one has twigged. We want you to go three tries up, and then squander the lead. Make it look convincing, we don't want any loose ends!



Players: OK, this makes perfect sense and I certainly don't mind match fixing for no benefit to me personally whatsoever.



If only you hadn't come along and exposed this trickery!