Ok just had a look at Sth's and Dogs Monday nights. Last season Sth's only played two Monday games. One they got 30,100 against Dogs so clearly no problem there. Second game was against NQ and got 9,700. Corresponding fixture in previous seasons (2008 Sunday afternoon 9,800, 2007 Sunday afternoon 10,000) no difference.



Bulldogs only played one Monday night game in 2010

Bulldogs v Penrith Monday 13,800 (2009 Friday night 14,000, 2008 Saturday 10,200) no difference



So there you go for all Richardsons and Goldbergs whinging A) they very rarley play Monday night (once a season) and B) the crowds are not effected against corresponding fixtures from previous seasons on other days.

yeah the telegraph article never compared like fixtures against one another



they took the average of friday night crowds, sat night crowds, sun crowds and monday crowds



good point

I understand your point JB. But they still lose money, that's their main concern. As would every club that plays on a Monday. No club likes playing on a Monday. What more can I add?

Hang on, no they don't! I've just shown that the two clubs complaining only played one or two games on a Monday and the crowds were no different than if they had played those teams on a different day so how do they lose money? The FACTS show that they are not losing money on attendances. Corporates? Maybe but I wouldn;t have thought it would be too hard to get companies to come to the footy for a meal and drinks straight from work rather than dragging execs out on a weekend. Then they get $40k plus the value of Monday nights in their NRL grants. How are they losing money?????

The article I showed quoted Richo complaining about the Souths v Dragons game, you supplied attendances to different opponents at different times.



[i"The Rabbitohs chief executive, who is leading a groundswell of club complaints against Monday night football, has estimated the round six match against the Dragons will cost Souths $205,000 in potential earnings from ticket, corporate and merchandise sales."[/i



and Greenberg was also taling about a fixture you didn't chose to compare either



[iAnd Bulldogs boss Todd Greenberg said his club had already lost as much as $300,000 in ticket sales by having the opening round game against the Tigers on a Monday night instead of Sunday afternoon.[/i





However, there is clearly some relevance in your post re opponents on different days to show Richo. Maybe you should email him your findings. Maybe you and Dally are proving that NRL clubs lie.





Many clubs play on different mondays. Many don't like playing on Mondays. It seems I can't stress that enough to you.

even if clubs lose out hosting games :



1. the nrl gives money to clubs to offset this ie i think 20k per game.

2. all clubs share it around

3. value of MNF means higher TV money which clubs get



take out MNF TV rights and clubs income goes down ....far more than the $50,000 or so each club loses from hosting 2 of these games



dont know why there is a debate here



richardson doesnt want MNF to end, hes not stupid



he is pushing gallop for more money



thats all this is about

Source?

Ok lets look at those specific games shall we



Dogs v Wests Rd1 Monday night this season Att 26,737

Previous seasons: 2010 Fri night 11,837 2009 Sun afternoon 25,622



Sths V St;s Rd6 Monday night this season Att 22,771

Previous seasons: 2010 Fri night 22,238 2009 Sat afternoon 19,218



So there you go, once again the FACTS show that playing those fixtures on a Monday night not only did not cause them to lose money but actually brought in BIGGER crowds! Damn these things called Facts for making CEO's look like they are clearly peddling other agendas!

There isnt, at least not about MNF, you and JB have just ended it.





Yep, the remarks were aimed at the folks negotiating the TV rights deal imho. If the Networks want it, they're gonna have to pay for it.

Thanks JB, other variables aside, you appear to be correct.



You're also inadvertently proving that NRL CEOs are liars (when it comes to attendances in particular). I reckon you should highlight this to the media!!!

www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6045092567 channel 10 are looking like they want the nrl bad including mnf

www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6045092567 channel 10 are looking like they want the nrl bad including mnf

RB, don't you think it is a classic case of doing business via the media. Whine like feck about MNF costing big shillings in the full knowledge it is a Pay TV golden goose and one the TV companies will break their back trying to keep.



I'll bet Gallop was grinning ear-to-ear when he saw these articles.