He was.

No it's a case that a jumped up little turd sometimes get what he deserves.

As i've said I can see he has his faults but then so do alot of other players. That doesn't make his wrongs right and he does have things to work on.



That still doesn't take away from the fact that he's spoke about so often on here because he's such a talent and other niggly little gits aren't in his league meaning oppositions fans don't really give a t*ss about them.

So he is of the same quality as Ryan Bailey then.

Gotcha.

The day Sam Tomkins start sh*thousing like Ryan Bailey i'll be the first to put my hands up and even i'll want him decked





Nobody is in that league! Ryan Bailey is thug thats rubbish at rugby whereas Sam Tomkins is a player that lets his competative streak get the better of him now and again whilst coming up with some wonderful rugby league skills.

And you say you are looking at this with an unbiased view.

Sam Tomkins already has a worse disciplinary record than Ryan Bailey, he also wishes he has had as much success as Ryan Bailey and he isnt likely to have had the same success as Bailey when he reaches the age Bailey is now (he would need to win 3 out of the next 5 grand finals to do so). Sam Tomkins also has the same amount of international caps as Ryan Bailey.



A thread about a dirty little Wigan Chav like Tomkins turns into a Wigan hissy fit about a 6"4 17stone Black Yorkshireman? Classic Bailey

Bailey could be black, white or luminous pink for all I care. He's a to*ser of the highest order and an average joe at that. As it stands Ricky Bibey has won more trophies then Sam Tomkins aswell but like Bailey I don't fancy his skills much either.

28,000 posts and surely not many have been better

My Sam Tomkins picture and wigan Sig are just their to fool everyone into thinking I actually support them.



I'm infact a Dewsbury Blue Sox fan and therefore totally impartial

But Ricky Bibey hasnt got anywhere near being able to do it with the regularity that Bailey has. Ricky Bibey was a bit part player which won the challenge cup twice. He was then dumped and flitted between the lower reaches of SL and the Championship.



Ryan Bailey has won 4 Grand Finals, 2 World Club Challenges and appeared in two Challenge Cup Finals under 3 different managers, and has been picked to play by 3 different international managers.



He has done this, as a prop, without ever been sent off and without ever being banned.



Yet he is, apparently the antithesis and your defence of Sam Tomkins. A player who at the age of 22 has already been sinbinned and banned as well as charged with such brave and noble offences as leading with the knee, kicking out in the tackle, and of course running in and punching. He also has no where near the success Ryan Bailey has.



So whilst you may be right Tomkins and Bailey are diametrically opposed I dont think it was for the reasons you thought.