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| Quote Gruffy="Gruffy"
This may not be for a large amount - but its the second one in the last 12-18 months (after the revenue brought one)'"
Really do hope it's not a small final straw on the camels back ...... and agree with most - if RFL don't put the same effort into saving Salford as they did with Bradford, then they can shove their SL up their double standard backsides ..... the league has enough problems without further splits based on perceived size/importance ......
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| Really hope you avoid everything we went through. I certainly don't recommend the experience.
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| Is this a wind up?
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| Quote middleman="middleman" ' small matter ' , or the club is disputing the monies owed to S.G..
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I am very close to the point of not really giving a s#it anymore about Salford and RL in general but this is what I heard several weeks ago.
SG was initially brought in by the club as consultants. The club agreed in advance to pay them a set figure for this work. The consultants then took it upon themselves to do additional work on behalf of a third party. SG then incorrectly assumed they would be paid despite having no formal agreement to undertake the extra work.
Following a disagreement or refusal of payment SG then decided to invoice the club for the additional work despite having no written/verbal agreement with Salford RLFC.
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| Quote theredshed="theredshed"........
SG was initially brought in by the club as consultants. The club agreed in advance to pay them a set figure for this work. The consultants then took it upon themselves to do additional work on behalf of a third party. SG then incorrectly assumed they would be paid despite having no formal agreement to undertake the extra work.
Following a disagreement or refusal of payment SG then decided to invoice the club for the additional work despite having no written/verbal agreement with Salford RLFC.'"
Like I said in an earlier post, these consultancy firms are often very quick off the mark in going to law as they have no other levers. If what redshed says is right, then clearly the club should fight their corner - if SG cannot show a purchase order for the work allegedly done then they cannot expect payment - simple.
So who is in the right here? Will we ever find out?
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| Quote theredshed="theredshed"I am very close to the point of not really giving a s#it anymore about Salford and RL in general but this is what I heard several weeks ago.
SG was initially brought in by the club as consultants. The club agreed in advance to pay them a set figure for this work. The consultants then took it upon themselves to do additional work on behalf of a third party. SG then incorrectly assumed they would be paid despite having no formal agreement to undertake the extra work.
Following a disagreement or refusal of payment SG then decided to invoice the club for the additional work despite having no written/verbal agreement with Salford RLFC.'"
If that is the case then the club are justified in not paying and fighting this order?
I don't fully understand what a winding up order is but if the club were found guilty and wound up would that then allow someone new to walk in with no debts attached? if so could possibly be a blessing in disguise and make the possiblity of buying the club a much more attractive proposition.
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| While anything of this nature is not good news, there is no immediate danger of Salford going out of business. As aluded too, the amount is small in relative terms and in general terms (without direct reference to this case) any dispute can relate to a principle or refusal to pay based on the nature or quality of the work provided, as well as an inability to pay, or any number of other reasons.
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| Quote Michigan red="Michigan red"If that is the case then the club are justified in not paying and fighting this order?
I don't fully understand what a winding up order is but if the club were found guilty and wound up would that then allow someone new to walk in with no debts attached? if so could possibly be a blessing in disguise and make the possiblity of buying the club a much more attractive proposition.'"
Not quite as straight forward as that, any new company would have to apply for a rugby league licence depending on which division they applied for. it would then be up to the other clubs to vote them that licence, before they can even operate as a club. Yes the debts would be clear but the new company would need to build trust within the RL community.So whilst it could be a good thing it can also be bad.
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| what happend to the holdsworth money?
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| You ain't going to be wound up for a small amount. I can't see how the club can be confident of winning the case if that was so we would not got to a winding up petition in the first place as they would have sorted it by now. The must have a case against club or wind up order would not have been granted.
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| Quote eccles star="eccles star"You ain't going to be wound up for a small amount. I can't see how the club can be confident of winning the case if that was so we would not got to a winding up petition in the first place as they would have sorted it by now. The must have a case against club or [iwind up order[/i would not have been granted.'"
Good grief!!! There is NO winding up order granted. All that has happened is that Steur Greggson have had a winding up PETITION filed - if it goes to a hearing - 29th October THEN the court will decide. Anyone CAN file a petition if they pay the fee to the court. Many years ago I once issued a winding up petition for The Royal Bank of Scotland over an unpaid invoice - what it does do is concentrate the mind because if you don't respond then it is assumed that you are in the wrong and you just get wound up.
To say "you ain't going to be wound up for a small amount" is completely wrong - you can be wound up for any amount IF the debt is shown to be genuine and unpaid.
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