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| Quote The All New Chester Wire="The All New Chester Wire"I don't think Squadbuilder should try and explain it, not in any official capacity anyway. They are NOT the club. Either the club or the RFL should make it clear though; it looks a bit smelly.'"
I worded that wrong sorry. What I should have said is as a supporters group which represents fans on youth development it should be pushing for some answers, a fans forum on the issue would be well attended I am sure.
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| Quote Ganson's Optician="Ganson's Optician"a fans forum on the issue would be well attended I am sure.'"
What by the usual 10 or so people.
Out of interest are you a Squadbuilder member?
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"Out of interest are you a Squadbuilder member?'"
Yes.
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| Quote Snoopy="Snoopy"Is he any good?'"
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| I think it is quite simple! - this is an extract from the RFL letter - " Having taken the view point they were not going to play many, if any, games in the first team in 2013 all six players have agreed to the transfer arrangements and their new employment contract with Swinton Lions RLFC. These players are now not registered or contracted with Warrington Wolves and therefore do not count towards the regulation regarding only allowing 5 loan and/or dual registered players in any matchday 17."
The six were subsequently increased to 7 with the inclusion of Danny bridge.
As the rules have it, swinton have loaned Mendieka to london, the seven players have no contracts with warrington. It has been announced on the swinton website.
You may note the careful wording on the warrington website which avoids saying he is currently a warrington player...vague.
I suspect that the reason they still appear on the warrington website is due to the fact that warrington have received sponsorship for the player and it is not political to have dumped your reserves.
That said, click your fingers and I am sure they will find a way back.
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| To further muddy already murky waters, in referring to both players loan arrangements, TS is quoted in todays League weekly as saying ...
"Brad is probably just getting back to the standard where he deserves a shot in super league again .... the benefits they'll gain from having a shot at that level, we feel, will enhance their chances for us and when given the chance with us, they'll be the better for it".
Seems pretty conclusive to be honest, rather suprisingly so in some ways.
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| Quote Just Little Lion Man="Just Little Lion Man"The six were subsequently increased to 7 with the inclusion of Danny bridge.
As the rules have it, swinton have loaned Mendieka to london, the seven players have no contracts with warrington. It has been announced on the swinton website. '"
Not sure about Bridge as he has been in our matchday squad last couple of weeks. Perhaps Swinton have loaned him to us?
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| But has anyone seen him play?
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| Quote Just Little Lion Man="Just Little Lion Man"I think it is quite simple! - this is an extract from the RFL letter - " Having taken the view point they were not going to play many, if any, games in the first team in 2013 all six players have agreed to the transfer arrangements and their new employment contract with Swinton Lions RLFC. These players are now not registered or contracted with Warrington Wolves and therefore do not count towards the regulation regarding only allowing 5 loan and/or dual registered players in any matchday 17."
The six were subsequently increased to 7 with the inclusion of Danny bridge.
As the rules have it, swinton have loaned Mendieka to london, the seven players have no contracts with warrington. It has been announced on the swinton website.
You may note the careful wording on the warrington website which avoids saying he is currently a warrington player...vague.
I suspect that the reason they still appear on the warrington website is due to the fact that warrington have received sponsorship for the player and it is not political to have dumped your reserves.
That said, click your fingers and I am sure they will find a way back.'"
Why would Swinton choose to loan out a first team regular?
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| Chris Terris Taylor of the WG has written on twitter that "Danny Bridge, Ryan Shaw and some of the other Wolves players are not Wolves players officially, but Swinton players that train full time with Wolves. As such, it was Swinton that loaned Brad Dwyer and James Mendeika out to SL clubs officially, not Wolves."
I think he has got it wrong with Dwyer, but otherwise confirms what has been said above. As someone pointed out Danny Bridge has been in the 19 man squad lately, so I presume he is currently on loan to Warrington? What a mess.
Quote Danny Bridge, Ryan Shaw and some of the other Wolves players are not Wolves players officially, but Swinton players that train full time with Wolves. As such, it was Swinton that loaned Brad Dwyer and James Mendeika out to SL clubs officially, not Wolves.="Paddock Punter"But has anyone seen him play?'"
He captained the under 20s squad last year from stand off, but seems to have switched to centre this year so difficult for me to comment really.
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| Quote Ganson's Optician="Ganson's Optician"I think he has got it wrong with Dwyer, but otherwise confirms what has been said above. As someone pointed out Danny Bridge has been in the 19 man squad lately, so I presume he is currently on loan to Warrington?'"
Apparently Dwyer is indeed a Swinton player. D Bridge is on loan to Warrington.
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| Quote Ganson's Optician="Ganson's Optician"Just done a bit of digging, and the six to sign for Swinton were "Morrison, Mendeika, Burke, Shaw, Ormsby and Riley".
What's going on is anyone's guess! Squadbuilder/WWST have been silent on this, which is unfortunate as they are probably in the best position to at least try and explain what on earth is going on. Perhaps Roy or someone else who reads this forum could help?'"
Certainly the scrapping of the u20s, the decision by SL Clubs (but not all, Warrington voted against) to not go with the RFL recommended u23s and the farcical dual reg / loaning situations not to mention the difficulties in funding the community programme following the massive reduction in Sport England funding have all been hot topics at our recent board meetings. So much so unfortunately we have not got down to analysing the detail of how individual players are being managed. Only that despite this being a system Warrington did not want, the club are determined to make it work as best they can. So I guess we will see a few more curious arrangements as the season continues.
I can only hope the clubs can get back together, realise they've made an almighty mess and put it right for 2014.
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