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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"ps
Penalties:
Warrington: 13
Saints: 12'"
Three consecutive penalties on our line. 13-12 doesn't mean squat, where and when, ie; middle of the field with twenty seconds to go. Face it; for whatever reason Richie has a soft spot for you.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Penalties that quick in succession undermine play of the team receiving them. One penalty a set of six is good, it continues momentum. To have a set disrupted by so many penalties hinders momentum. So no, it wasn't generous.'"
I would have thought it would be more disruptive to the defending team. You are set on your line, readying yourselves, peep, faces of bemusement. And so-on and so-forth. Now you have in your mind you are trying to focus on the attacking team, whilst wondering if the ref will blow up. The opposition are constantly starting from the first tackle, afforded the opportunity to try a differing starting set. I fail to see how it is disruptive, no momentum is lost as the attack is as far up the field as possible where the defence is having to amass further, unwanted, tackles.
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| Quote getdownmonkeyman="getdownmonkeyman"I would have thought it would be more disruptive to the defending team. You are set on your line, readying yourselves, peep, faces of bemusement. And so-on and so-forth. Now you have in your mind you are trying to focus on the attacking team, whilst wondering if the ref will blow up. The opposition are constantly starting from the first tackle, afforded the opportunity to try a differing starting set. I fail to see how it is disruptive, no momentum is lost as the attack is as far up the field as possible where the defence is having to amass further, unwanted, tackles.'"
Completely agree. SaintsFan is talking nonsense on this one. I have never heard any attacking team complain about getting a penalty!
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Completely agree. SaintsFan is talking nonsense on this one. I have never heard any attacking team complain about getting a penalty!'"
On the red button after the match Simmons complained that Saints' penalties weren't as good as the ones Warrington were given.
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Completely agree. SaintsFan is talking nonsense on this one. I have never heard any attacking team complain about getting a penalty!'"
One penalty - great. A series of them in quick succession allows no momentum in attack.
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"On the red button after the match Simmons complained that Saints' penalties weren't as good as the ones Warrington were given.'"
If so, he is a balloon.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"One penalty - great. A series of them in quick succession allows no momentum in attack.'"
It is far more demoalising to the defence to know that the tackle you have just scrambled to complete on your line now counts for nothing. If that happens two and three times on the bounce it can be extremely frustrating. The attack have lost nothing and have actually wasted more of the opposition's energy.
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"It is far more demoalising to the defence to know that the tackle you have just scrambled to complete on your line now counts for nothing. If that happens two and three times on the bounce it can be extremely frustrating. The attack have lost nothing and have actually wasted more of the opposition's energy.'"
That doesn't change the fact that repeated stops interrupt momentum. That is so very obvious.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"That doesn't change the fact that repeated stops interrupt momentum. That is so very obvious.'"
So obvious that you are the only person i have ever heard moan about receiving penalties. Awesome.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"That doesn't change the fact that repeated stops interrupt momentum. That is so very obvious.'"
That is utterly ridiculous. Anyone who has ever played any rugby will know that it is incredibly draining to defend repeat sets and they inevitably lead to conceding points.
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| hodgson's try was slightly dubious but hodgson should have been racing 90 metres to the try line in the first half after silverwood decided too give a scrum after we hadnt even knocked on so we will call that quits. in terms of the game what an atmosphere last night i cant remember it being that loud for quite a long time at the HJ. And what a game too be a part of , reminded me of the wigan home game from last season didnt really deserve too be a loser but thankfully this time we came out on the winning side  also had we have gone 24 - 0 up so early on i hate too think what the score might have been...
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| Quote mark_m="mark_m"That is utterly ridiculous. Anyone who has ever played any rugby will know that it is incredibly draining to defend repeat sets and they inevitably lead to conceding points.'"
Except you weren't having to defend repeated sets. The three consecutive penalties that were referred to did not come at the end of three completed sets. That's my point. We couldn't get a set going in attack because of those penalties. At least that was my memory of it at the match. I haven't watched the game back yet.
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