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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Or you could argue that the fact that we're pretty obviously beneath the top 2 means it's even more impressive?
I don't agree he's ineffective, he's made breaks in key games for us this season and we've just put the ball down. He doesn't steal plays by going on his own very often either. I'd bet 90% of his metres are made between the 20s.'"
I don't necessarily think he's ineffective either in all honesty, quite the opposite as he's a player I fear when we play you guys. I don't think he's somebody that a team can play off, more that you can play off the back of him. It's not just the metres he makes, it's the two plays that follow that hurt you too.
I've no problems with his inclusion as dreamteam hooker. I would always take Monaghan for us and Roby for you guys, especially in recent years when you've gone one out play'tastic.
Roby is perhaps the best athlete in world rugby, if you view him as a forward playing hooker, he's the best there is. If you view Monaghan as a halfback playing hooker, in a creative role he's the best there is without question too. I guess Monas would be the sort of 'hookers hooker', the Stevo's of this world, Lowes etc will appreciate his art. |
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| Quote JWP="JWP"www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?hs1=2011&hp1=973&hs2=2011&hp2=470&stat=tries&season=2011
Compare Menzies to Westwood.
You won't get too many on here saying that Westwood isn't a deserved inclusion, well for me, Menzies stats are equally as impressive, irrespective of his age.'"
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biggest joke ive seen all year haha atkins, king and mike monas have been better than joel this year mike monas best player in the league, king best centre in the league by a huge margin atkins best english centre and probably 2nd best in league that team is unbelievable
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Leave the club bias out of it and take a look at Roby. It's impossible to leave him out. He is a phenom.
Averaging, thats right averaging, nigh on 200m and 40 tackles a game.'"
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Leave the club bias out of it and take a look at Roby. It's impossible to leave him out. He is a phenom.
Averaging, thats right averaging, nigh on 200m and 40 tackles a game.'"
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| Quote rawzy!="rawzy!"biggest joke ive seen all year haha atkins, king and mike monas have been better than joel this year mike monas best player in the league, king best centre in the league by a huge margin atkins best english centre and probably 2nd best in league that team is unbelievable'"
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"lol'"
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| Quote rawzy!="rawzy!"lets be realistic though mate if u wanted to win the league you wouldnt trade king or atkins anyone let alone yeaman or carmont, yes yeaman has had a good year but i dont think hes there and carmonts inclusion bewilders me
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Obviously it will come down to bias, you will say Atkins/King/Bridge are the best centres. Hull fans will say Yeaman, Wigan fans will say Carmont. I don't have any problem with Carmont's inclusion, he's been far the best centre in the league this season |
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| Quote Coventry Warrior!="Coventry Warrior!"Obviously it will come down to bias, you will say Atkins/King/Bridge are the best centres. Hull fans will say Yeaman, Wigan fans will say Carmont. I don't have any problem with Carmont's inclusion, he's been far the best centre in the league this season
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yeaman and briscoe are only in for scoring tries im pretty sure ud of loved to see richards name in and i wouldnt of been suprised if it was but the way it has been done is wingers ans centres goes on most tries forwards for most meters i presume stand offs for dragging a team along by themselves and full back having the name of tomkins.... |
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Or you could argue that the fact that we're pretty obviously beneath the top 2 means it's even more impressive?
I don't agree he's ineffective, he's made breaks in key games for us this season and we've just put the ball down. He doesn't steal plays by going on his own very often either. I'd bet 90% of his metres are made between the 20s.'"
Do you have shares with Roby?
His stats are impressive but how much game time more has he played this season, Saints have only been plying with one hooker for most of the season because of injuiries.
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really wish he could get a handle on that part of his game.
