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This is not a sour grapes thing like you think and we're not the only ones who think this. I've got exclusively footy supporting mates who think you being champions is a joke. I've actually been quite complimentary about your win so I don't know why you can't take on board some different opinions.



The current play-off system is plain wrong, although I think the play-offs (in some form, probably top five) are right to have.

Old top 5 system was better than the current top 8 arrangement, largely because the team finishing top went straight to the final if they won their first game.



Regardless of this though, I wonder if all this bleating would have occurred had Warrington ever managed to win the play-offs from a similarly low position as Leeds just have done.

Again, check back on this forum, we've been having this debate since the shocking attendances in week one of the play-offs.



And how the hell do you justify playing the 8th placed team from 5th in week one, when fourth play top. This doesn't take into account my feelings for Wire, that is massively unfair on Huddersfield. You get a nice warm-up game before you play them the week after them gettin demoralised.

We did it in 1986 from 4th, though I don't think we had the temerity to suggest we were better than the true champions, Halifax, even though we'd battered them in a play-off final....

Lucky that internet messageboards weren't around back then...

According to Stevo after last nights game. If you don't agree with the playoffs the way Sky have manufactured it you don't love the game like he does.



Pretty sure he's a Leeds fan

Wow, the debate has been raging for a whole 4 weeks!



The season lasts 8mths, can you honestly tell me this was a problem back in february?



We all know the rules when the season starts.



And who cares if football fans think us being champs is a joke? Football, the sport, the players, the fans and the finances are one of the biggest jokes in this country.

Yes it's been a problem since the play-offs invited 8 teams to play in them. Rewarding mediocrity from day one of the season. During the season we'd talk about results week to week, sometimes atmosphere, the league table. For 6months nobody gives one about the play-offs. When the play-offs come around we'd talk about the play-offs because it's the current topic as it's happening (or just happened) now.



Nobody is currently talking about the Challenge Cup because it's not that time of the season but there really shouldn't be a huge gap between the quarters and the semi's REALLY shouldn't be just three weeks before the final. Every year when the summer comes around I say this. The topic goes away as the time moves on but it doesn't mean I still don't think it.



Millneium Tragic is a joke. It's massively unfair on some clubs who have to play harder games than others yet the points count towards the league table. The attendances are embarrassing and the stadium is far to f*ck*ng big. I would personally love to see that whole weekend binned-off as I don't think it's good for Super League. The topic goes away as the time moves on but it doesn't mean I still don't think it.



Just like the play-offs; the curret set-up is wrong. And that's true whether I talk about it 365 days a year or never.

Well unfortunately you dont make the rules, so we just have to lump it.



At the end of the day, Leeds Rhinos play to win, they began the season with the task of finishing first knowing that would make them the best over the weekly rounds and the best chance of making the GF.



We lost some games as did everyone, we got on with it, made the CC final, made the playoffs, made the GF and became SL champions.



Magic wknd is just another game, its over and done with in round one, move on.



So if the playoffs are currently the debatable subject then I suggest if Wire and wig had made the final there wouldnt have been an issue about a team from 8th winning for obvious reasons.



Maybe we could win from 8th next year? Eddie and stevo would love it

Not interested in Leeds, this is a question as to how you would change it instead of just moaning.



This isn't some injustice thread or Leeds didn't deserve it thread.

The main reason people haven't been talking about the p.ayoffs [sicis that it wasn't relevent, it wasn't the a topic that needed to be brought up, people have said in the past they don't like it, do we really need insecure Leeds fans coming on and arguing the point.

Insecure?



A person who is insecure lacks confidence in their own value, and one or more of their capabilities, lacks trust in themselves or others, or has fears that a present positive state is temporary, and will let them down and cause them loss or distress by "going wrong" in the future. This is a common trait, which only differs in degree between people.



Pretty much sums up warringtons end to the season

Leeds insecurity stems from them winning it and having to do a little self relection, no serious Leeds fan thought they'd win the GF 3 weeks ago, they have won it and they are rightly happy and now feel the need to defend it rather than just be, that need to defend your win shows your insecurity.