I'd like to hook Dearden up to an electrical current and send a small electric shock to his nipples every time he says "to be perfectly truthful with you" or "to be honest with you".



Jack - until you tell us otherwise, we will assume you're being truthful and honest, ok pal?

Stevo was running down the game again on Backchat last night. Becomes a bit tiresome..maybe he needs a break from the sport?

They all do my nut in. Just mute the tele...



Or do your best Gould and Rabbits impression if you need some sound.

People get too hung up on the subject but I do often wonder what new or passing fans of our sport must think.

They could be forgiven for thinking they've stumbled on a gameshow at times. It's very pantomime, but not very amusing.

what i notice about their commentary (and this game was a very good example) is the general negativity about the way the game turns out, they dont actually say it out loud but i felt there was dissapointment that saints were not winning,( mainly from hemmings) and then as the game went on it was obvious that saints were defo gonna lose they started saying , they havent got a sean long or a kieron cunningham or a . it wasnt the fact that warrington were playing them of the park, oh no it couldnt be that , we finally get another team in the final apart from wigan, saints or bradford and they just seem downbeat about it to me, they should be screaming about it , they talk about expansion and trying to get a more competitive super league , but then when someone does infiltrate the ranks of the so called big four the start feeling sorry for them, hemmings was even bemoaning the fact that kieron cunningham had never won man of steel, whats that got to do with the semi final between saints and warrington, someone had a bandage on his face in a game the other week and hemmigs started talking about andy farrell!!

i turned the game off as soon as the whistle went because i was sick of the commentary, so i didnt hear what was said after, but to me the focus was on the dissapointment for saints loss and not on the fact that there might be new name on the cup this year which there definately should of been, by the way i am a widnes supporter and i am just sick of the bias towards the so called big four

Considering 50% of Sky Sports RL viewers live in the South of England they must be doing something right. If you want pantomime, search Eddie Waring on YouTube. Hemmings and Stephenson have done a brilliant job of promoting our game over the past 21 years. I don't quite get why people are saying Stevo didn't want us to win, he has been saying we will win for years!

Personally i think people see what they want to see.

Definitely. Once something winds you up you begin to look for little things and interpret them differently to back up your opinion. I spoke to Stevo after the Broncos game in August, and he was full of praise for Warrington saying he would be cheering for us at Wembley. Yet I regularly read on here that he loves Leeds and hates us!

may be to a gedree but theres no doubting the bias towards leeds saints and wigan.....the season we won the league saints eddie asked paul cullen on boots n all is it good for our game that warrington are putting huge scores on teams,it cant be he whinged..weeks later saints murdered wakey at there rented home on sky and all we got was only saints could score trys like this and true entertainers...2 faced and biased if you ask me...

watched that super league backchat this morning thought i had leeds tv on..hardly a mention of westwood who got nominated for m.o.s but more concerned with sinfields (whose a very good player)omission from the m.o.s list

How many games have you been that are 'the best ever', I've probably said it loads of times?



"This was Wire's best game we were near perfect".



The trouble is humans don't remember every single moment of their existence.



The thing is though we remember sections of our life and other peoples life, many a time i remember a day that a mate has forgot.



My point is they say things having forgot what they have said in the past, trouble is you might remember them saying something contradictory to what they have said, we all do it.

Our experiences change and it changes our view on things and our opinions change.

Are you saying they are senile, Yed?





I don't like that they don't commentate on the action; it would be better if they did, because it would negate all the popped-into-their-heads-and-spewed-forth-without-a-filter claptrap they all come out with. I honestly don't think they're concentrating on what they are saying, or else Eddie would not have started babbling about the moon, or where Stevo keeps his hair (?!!)

Media personailty in not intentionally offending supporter shocker!



I bet you also beleive coldplay when they say that the town or city they're on that night are 'the best in the world', don't you?



Rugby league has had bad commentators in the past and still, to a very large degree, does today. We take what we can get but we shouldn't get some sort of stockholm syndrome to the outdated and often embarrassingly bad commentary we get now.



It doesn't bother me too much but I can see why people complain.