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| Quote post="post"I think your being a little harsh Ron. I think because we haven't had anyone done for gouging for as long as I can remember, the Hock incident is getting blown out of proportion.
If you watch the repeat of the incident 'on mute' without the muppets on sky giving you their opinion it aint that bad, the nearest he gets is the tip of his index finger touches his eyelid when his eyes are shut, which wouldn't cause much pain, prob wouldn't feel a thing with the adrenaline pumping, I've had a stray finger/thumb in the eye many a time playing rugby and a few times sparring which wasn't painful just makes the eyes water, the link I gave previously 'is' most definatley eye gouging, the Hock incident was nowhere near as bad.'" They made a point of showing it on Granads Reports or do you not get it in your Region??,
I am still waiting for some Wigan fans to actually tell me just what does Gareth Hock bring to a Rugby League field apart from sheer thuggery.
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| Wait a minute but you can clearly hear Harrison scream when Hock does what he does. Ok there may have been no "injury" but there must have been pain for Harrison to scream out.
What he did was not defendable.
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| Quote Teessidewire="Teessidewire"So by that Harrison has to lose an eye for Hock to get suspended. Don't be so stupid. You cannot defend the indefensible. It was an awful thing to do and it was then compounded by the punch. Two charges, one long ban to follow. Mind you, when the ban's over he'll get another hero's welcome from the fans when he comes back.'"
Yes, that's exactly what happened. Oh wait...
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| Quote Enicomb="Enicomb"Yes, that's exactly what happened. Oh wait...'"
I thought there was much excitement over his return!
I would check the forum but you already know it is true
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| Quote Enicomb="Enicomb"Yes, that's exactly what happened. Oh wait...'"
It wasn't so much a hero's welcome for Hock as a vomfest of self-indulgent backslapping by Lenagan and co for transforming Hock into some sort of repentant latter day saint. He had, we were told in many a newspaper article and TV piece, got his act together and was taking care of Wigan orphans and healing the sick.
Anyway, bravo to the Wigan fans for the following in this thread:
- Hock's act can't have been that bad because Harrison can still see;
- Hock's act can't be that bad because someone else once did an even worse gouge.
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| Quote jdrocket="jdrocket"I thought there was much excitement over his return!
I would check the forum but you already know it is true'"
Excitement and heroes welcome are two different things. I don't think anyone condoned his behavior; but either way that doesn't stop him being an exciting player. No doubt you're now going to say something about the eye gouging, I'd say don't waste your time as I already think it was deplorable.
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| Post been on the white stuff?
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| Quote Steve51="Steve51"No it's gauging that ain't being blown out of proportion at all you prick. Gauging is gauging, it's the worst poop house tactic that a rugby player can perform, part from bum an official on the pitch.
there's a reason it carries an 8 game ban is because anyone who plays or has played this game knows there is a tough honesty that goes with rugby league. Be the big man, yes pleaase, be the little poop house half back that jincks his way over, we'll clap that all day.
Get hurt honestly banging yourself against a big pack, we'll clap you off he pitch.
Be a poop house that picks another player up by the eyes like a bowling ball then you have no place in this sport.
You sir have never put a kit on, and have no idea of the unwritten rules of gobery that Hock (Charnock- let's not open that can) has done.
Look sunshine. If I came round to yours tonight and shat on your living room carpet , would you say that what I did what inexcusable. If I said it was accidental would that be any less excusable ... no
Now love off !'"
Played a game have we?
If you read back 'I think' Hock will get 1 for the punch and 2 - 4 for the gouge, but in all honesty I think we won't see him until next season.
I said it's bad what he did but not that bad (the way some are going on its like he popped his eyeball out of the socket), watch the incident again on mute and tell me its as bad as the link I provided or any other gouge in Rugby Union.
Yes, it is a poophouse tactic and the lowest of the low if its as in the link.
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| I fail to see POST where you think STEVE51 has called you names as per your reported Post.
I suggest if you keep getting responses you dont like you off back to the Wigan board and stay there.
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| Post..thanks for reminding me why I dislike a certain 'element' of Wigan fans so much.....arrogant, unreasonable and blinkered.
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| Quote Ron="Ron"But it is irrelevent whether he hurt Harrison or not ( I agree h didn't seem to hurt him)... its the fact he attempted to thats the problem.
Like I said, attempted eye gouging should be an 8 game minimum ban (this mean attempted, not actually succeeding in causing damage).. if he had actually caused permanent damage to Harrison eyes he would be lucky to play rugby ever again if it was up to me.'"
I agree with you, attempted eye gouge ( banned until next season ) and if there were any damage whatsoever to Ben Harrison whether it be a shiner or damage to sight then a lengthy ban would to a lifetime ban would ensue, [uthis is the point Ive been trying to get across [/uand getting shot down from all angles.
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