I have also noticed how were waiting for the attack to come to us more and more...........it could be fatigue, it could be that the opposition are hitting our guys harder and taking more out of them.



We also have to remember that as well as losing Brough we've also lost key players at various times this season which i dont think has helped to get a settled team and a proper roll on like we have in the past.



i'm not convinced NB will have coached them or instructed them to stop doing what has been so succesful though....it could be a confidence thing too because it seemed to happen more at Wire and Wigan.......the 2 teams who smashed us early on and the players had no answer to it.

we are playing people in the wrong positions and making things too complicated by having half back and full backs change positions for defence and attack. keep things simple and only make changes in positions you need to, dont change combinations that are starting to work such as centres and wingers. dont play any combination of patrick horne or kirmond together at the same time with their small size, poor defence and lack of go forward when under the cosh.

agree... but this is what happens when you go for a big squad, trying to keep players happy by giving them games

He is more bothered about the Wrestle than the line speed,we had the fastest line speed its gone but you just watch how much we try to wrestle its a joke,for me he has taken the edge off our big hitters Fa:llongo Mason,and a few more,for me all the tweaking he does with the team does not breed confidence,pick what he thinks is the best 17 and let them get on with it FFS looking at some off the players body language recently tells me all not well in the camp.

Well said mate



at the moment -though I wasnt there (on hols but would have been if Sky hadnt moved it!!) but watched it on telly - the first half at Warrington the defensive line was truly shapeless and some didnt appear to know where they should be positioned!

Hardly surprising ..................but against the best it wont work!

What's all this moaning from 'giants' fans? Players fatigued? You were outplayed from minute one on Friday. Deal with it.



I believe being in 3rd place flatters you. You certainly won't be competing with the big clubs like Wire come play-off time.

who's actually replacing brough at the moment, i know they've said grix moving up with cudjoe at fullback but cudjoe was no where really the other night, is the halfback situation more complicated than it needs to be?

Don't get too cocky, you've beaten us once in 3 attempts and even then you almost messed that up!



Won nothing yet and chances are we'll be meeting you in the playoffs.



4 first team players missing, Brough, Griffin, Faiumu, and Lunt - albeit Lunt is now out for the season.

ignore him, he's a WUM in disguise.

Didn't you say that last season?

How many Challenge Cups have you won recently?

Same as you did for 300 years