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I think i used the Premiership as a bad example, as that is sponsors just wanting to get their name on the box. They couldnt really care about the type of 'mule' they use to get the name out there!
I think in the case of Rugby League, at the very heart of it, the sponsor will want some connection with their target audience.
They dont receive the same 'across the board' exposure that Premiership Football will, so the money they spend will have to be a wiser and more calculated choice.
Personally - i'd have said someone like the Fullers Brewery would be a wise 'London' choice for Quins RL.
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| Shirts out before Christmas should be a no-brainer. If it results in sales of 1 more shirt, surely it's worth it - and I'd be buying one for my godson.
Quote Personally - i'd have said someone like the Fullers Brewery would be a wise 'London' choice for Quins RL.'"
Except we couldn't wear it in France, so the deal would presumably be worth less. 
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| Quote Chris Brown="Chris Brown"Clearly we are in a minority of two Dave. Silly old us thinking that putting the major merchandising garment on sale at the biggest potential sale time of the year is such a silly idea
Clearly its Quins and Celtic Crusaders who have got it right, how ridiculous of Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Bradford, Wakefield, Salford, Warrington et al to stupidly release a shirt for Xmas
Maybe they will realise the error of their ways and realise that Quins and Celtic are the leaders and the ones who have got it right by not bothering
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Oh shut up, you just seem to asking for attention, sorry for other people having opinions that differ from you.
We're not saying it wouldn't be good for it to come out before christmas, its just that if i had a option to have the shirt out for christmas without sponsers on i wouldnt want to buy it.
Thats all.
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| Quote tim791="tim791"Oh shut up, you just seem to asking for attention, sorry for other people having opinions that differ from you.
We're not saying it wouldn't be good for it to come out before christmas, its just that if i had a option to have the shirt out for christmas without sponsers on i wouldnt want to buy it.
Thats all.'"
Your opinion is ridiculous, which is what Chris Brown is getting at. You said that it would make no difference if it came out at Christmas, the same number of people would buy it, or do you want to backtrack now 
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| depends what kind of person you are?
If you had the option of paying £44.99 for a shirt without a sponsor at xmas, or £44.99 for a shirt with a sponsor in February - i know which option i'd take!
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| Quote ExiledFromHull="ExiledFromHull"depends what kind of person you are?
If you had the option of paying £44.99 for a shirt without a sponsor at xmas, or £44.99 for a shirt with a sponsor in February - i know which option i'd take!'"
I know, and this wasn't the point that Tim was originally making.
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| Quote Dave Lister="Dave Lister"Your opinion is ridiculous, which is what Chris Brown is getting at. You said that it would make no difference if it came out at Christmas, the same number of people would buy it, or do you want to backtrack now
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My opinion isn't ridiculous, i don't believe it would be a huge difference with out fans whether it came out before or after christmas, especially if sponsers names are on or not.
If non-sponser'd shirts came out before christmas and then sponsered shirts came out after, myself and im sure a 'few' other people would wait till the sponsered shirts were out.
So you would want a non-sponsered shirt for christmas instead of a sponsered one after then Dave?
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| Quote tim791="tim791"My opinion isn't ridiculous, i don't believe it would be a huge difference with out fans whether it came out before or after christmas, especially if sponsers names are on or not.
If non-sponser'd shirts came out before christmas and then sponsered shirts came out after, myself and im sure a 'few' other people would wait till the sponsered shirts were out.
So you would want a non-sponsered shirt for christmas instead of a sponsered one after then Dave?'"
Why are you making this rubbish up? Have you not read any of my posts on this thread?
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| Quote Dave Lister="Dave Lister"Why are you making this rubbish up? Have you not read any of my posts on this thread?'"
What am i making up?
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| Quote tim791="tim791"My opinion isn't ridiculous, i don't believe it would be a huge difference with out fans whether it came out before or after christmas, especially if sponsers names are on or not.
If non-sponser'd shirts came out before christmas and then sponsered shirts came out after, myself and im sure a 'few' other people would wait till the sponsered shirts were out.
So you would want a non-sponsered shirt for christmas instead of a sponsered one after then Dave?'"
Why are we worrying about sponsors on the shirts, there was a shirt sponsor last season but at no stage did the club offer the chance to purchase a replica with the sponsors name on it anyway.
I guess another way to approach it would be to aim to get a sponsor tied up ealier than the 1st match. Understand the financial realities of life today but every other club does manage it
Being told to shut up because I disagree with you is a little childish don't you think because as Dave pointed out you are now arguing a totally different point to your original one
Shirts should be available by now, end of story
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| I know, and this wasn't the point that Tim was originally making.
My bad.....now you children play nicely! 
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| Quote tim791="tim791"What am i making up?'"
You keep questioning me with regards to the shirt being on sale without sponsors. I have never mentioned that this should be the case, in fact I have agreed with this point on this thread at least twice, you gibbon.
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