I agree, nearly started a topic on it. I never normally watch boots n all, only the tries version, but Wells was a breath of fresh air on it, his analysis was superb, more of a tactics show than anything else, which clubs use which moves etc, thats the sort of stuff that well interests me. That and he brings a balance to the debates.

agreed and Hemmings adds very little other than talking crap. I'd prefer it if they just had the one programme, maybe longer but with a bit of debate rather than two player giving unopposed opinion on two separate programmes. I feel that the job they do on tactics is ok but too limited by the fact they avoid showing any full tries on Boots n All itself. Watched Phil Gould about the Melbourne Storm cap issue and had it happened in this country there's no programme and no presenters at the moment where anyone would take such an issue up with the RFL in such a way.

I don't understand complaints about the negative publicity arising from announcing three major overseas players at the same time as losing a young British player with enormous potential (according to the Sale media release which I know needs to be taken with a pinch of salt). Did Wigan expect to be congratulated for it by anyone?



The image it sends seems very clear, regardless of the actual way Wigan are moving in terms of promoting young players.

Thats the sort of thing Dave Whelan does. IL is more professional.

Ahh, its taken longer than expected, but heres the clueless troll.

So us signing 3 quality NRL players (which obviously improves the quality in SL ala the Matt King, Matt Orford, Brett Kearney, Brent Webb etc etc signings) and releasing at least 3 overseas players (to keep us under the quota of course) is bad for SL and Wigan?



I'm quite sure that Farrell, Tuson, Tomkins x2, Mellor, Howarth, Prescott, O'Carroll, Mossop (7 of those have all played SL this season at Wigan) and any other youngsters you want to name will learn bundles from Finch, Lima and Hoff that will make them better players in the future and thus improve both England and SL in general.



Our side imo next year will look something like:



Roberts (if he stays of course)

Goulding - Wigan lad

Gleeson - Wigan lad

Carmont

Richards

Sam - Wigan lad and England #6

Finch

Fielden - English

Tommy

Coley - English

Joel - Wigan lad and England International

Hoff

Lockers - Wigan lad and England International



Which leaves the following fighting for bench spots:



McIlorum - English (granted he plays for Ireland)

Prescott - Wigan lad

Tuson - English

Farrell - Wigan lad

Mossop - English

Hock - Wigan lad and probable England International

Lima

O'Carroll - English (granted he plays for Ireland)



Add to that:



Vievers

Mellor (if fit)

Howarth

Davies

Tomkins

Walker

Marsh

Charnley



Yes Eddie, you're bang on - we're killing the game. Time to change the rules again.

I'm sure you said the same thing when Leeds signed Danny Buderus, Greg Eastwood and Brett Delaney

Some of the trolls on here make me laugh.





I had some guy (Non rugby supporter) come up to me at work the other day and he said "I watched your lot on telly on Friday and theyve got a lot of homegrown youngsters havent they?"

I just started laughing and said "according to fans of all the other teams in super league we are the foreign legion!"

Do you never get tired of trotting out cliches? You're talking utter rubbish, mate.



Thornley - mainly at the instigation of his parents and his agent - has been flirting with Rugby Union for the last two years. And given that he's never achieved anything in Rugby League, and doesn't seem too worried about it (he hasn't even appeared in the Wigan first team apart from for 10 minutes in a charity match, during which he didn't distinguish himself), you have to wonder if this second big payday (courtesy of the dumb clucks at Sale) was his plan all along.



This defection has got naff all to do with any signings Wigan have made Down Under. It's been on the cards for ages and ages, long before the Melbourne Storm controversy broke. To say or even imply otherwise is a downright lie.



That's why Wigan fans are irritated. Because yet again people who should know better are telling lies about our club. Now you can sit up there on this unassailable moral high ground that Leeds fans seem to occupy at the moment (though God knows why, when you've got so many imports of your own) and pretend you don't know what the fuss is about ... but I'd like to bet that if public figures started misrepresenting your club's activities, you'd be among the first to complain bitterly.

Very well put.

This was the same club that released Mark Calderwood and signed Scott Donald, released Richie Mathers and signed Brent Webb, released Chev Walker and signed Clinton Toopi and released Gareth Ellis and signed Greg Eastwood.

Smith for Delaney too