Iam not saying sean is a bad player but take the captaincy from him and then he can just get on with his own game. He has no leadership qualitys same last year and the year before, next time you go to a match watch him, to the control of the team. When farrell was captain and Edwards they was solid as captain controlled the team and spoke to them if they did anything wrong.

Have you read any of the posts before you?

Yes I have read all posts on here. Iam just commenting on what I have felt for a good while, whilst he has been captain. Not just todays defeat, Iam not putting all the blame on sean, but really think he is a better player when the pressure is not on him as a captain.

O carroll was our best player today

I can't believe that after the garbage performances of a number of players in that team and poor tactics and management by Noble there is a thread criticising O'Loughlin's captaincy. Is this thread a wind-up?



As far as I could see he had a solid game and was more vocal than usual (which is what everyone wants).



Ellery Hanley in his prime couldn't have led that rabble out there today to success. The vast majority of that team today produced way under par performances and the tactics and team selection by Noble were shocking. (On team selection, I am assuming that Goulding wasn't fit for selection. If he was and Noble picked Phelps ahead of him then his judgment really must be in question. And given that Piggy is way off 60 min fitness let alone 80 min fitness, why no McIlorum?).



I'm getting tired of the anti-Lockers brigade. If we had excellent coaching and a first 17 of world class players then maybe we could look to criticise his captaincy at times - the lad's no Bell, Hanley or Farrell - but he is a good player who always seems to give 100% for his home town team and there are far bigger problems at Wigan we should be concentrating on. Frankly after today I feel sorry for him having to try to lead that shower.

Agreed. He was plenty vocal.

here we go again

to all these doubters who say he shouldnt be captain, watch the game he give everything today the shots he put in was brilliant. he bolloked all the players to move up with him in defence had a hand in the try but hes not wigan quality



Yet karl pryce is wigan quality

Sean is a excellent player but is no captain. There was some really bad players today and some good ones, we cannot take anything away from a fantastic wakefield display with john kear in charge. Why does sam tomkins not get a start at stand off?

so who do you give it to dont forget hes got to b wigan quality so pick wisely haha

Stuart fielden

Everyone on here wants the best for wigan rugby apart from some other supporters from other clubs. We are all intitled to our own thoughts and feelings about the club. At the end of the day lets just hope today was just a bad day at the office!!!!

These things are so predictable.



Mathers - Fair enough.



Next in line are:

Bailey is rubbish

Strip Lockers of the captaincy

Noble has done nothing for us.



I was hoping 2009 would lead us to some new topics from which to give blame.