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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Well let WLA do a poll and then see who is in the minority.'"
You might have a point if it were randomly done and the result actually showed you were in a minority, but as that wouldn't be possible you don't know if you or I are actually in the minority on this one.
Funny how you don't seem to keep mentioning you were "in a minority" about signing Ryan McGoldrick for fullback or giving Noble a contract extension for last season, in the way you do with other things. Any reason why? 
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| Quote - Neil -="- Neil -"to be fair to Rogues theres a lot of folk on this board bleating that Sam should be at 6.'"
And there's a lot who say leave him at fullback or haven't said either way - hence why this "minority" bollox is just that. Some people are desperate to find an excuse for our ropey form so the Sam for 6 brigade are vocal. I didn't hear many at the end of last season or the start of this.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"I'll only listen to Sam to 6 from someone who gives me a viable alternative at fullback. And by viable, I mean an in form Roberts. Until Roberts hits some form we have no alternative.'"
How exactly does Roberts find form unless he is playing in his best position?
I personally agree with you but I think this is the perfect week to give Roberts gametime at FB. Hull KR have their best kicker out so he will be under less pressure. He had a nightmare against Hudds due to the high bombs.... I don't think he will have the same problem, he will be fine against KR.
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| Quote stpatricks="stpatricks"Having any combinations at half back, full back, hooker will be irellevent until the pack start to dominate teams again. Feilden has been a big miss the pack is getting bullied at the moment'"
Of course our problems are in the pack, but having Leuluai at hooker makes a world of difference. His ability to run with ball in hand causes teams all sorts of problems for the other team.
The issue with McIlorum is that it's one out rugby at times - and if their forwards are bigger, fresher, and more aggressive than your forwards that's always going to fail. When Leuluai is shifted there it changes things up - his distribution and scooting ability are superior to McIlorum and he really leads the team around the park. It makes a massive difference.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"I'll only listen to Sam to 6 from someone who gives me a viable alternative at fullback. And by viable, I mean an in form Roberts. Until Roberts hits some form we have no alternative.'"
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"How exactly does Roberts find form unless he is playing in his best position?
I personally agree with you but I think this is the perfect week to give Roberts gametime at FB. Hull KR have their best kicker out so he will be under less pressure. He had a nightmare against Hudds due to the high bombs.... I don't think he will have the same problem, he will be fine against KR.'"
I'd give Roberts a 4/5 weeks on the wing no matter how he plays to get him back up to speed. IF he can get anywhere near last seasons form, I think we'll be a better team with him at 1 and Sam at 6. If he can't get up to speed in those few weeks then Sam is the only realistic option at 1.
His nightmare at Hudds was only from bombs in the first half. He returned the ball well and apart from a dodgy pass into touch, he linked up well.
The same grace has got to be given to Finch. Too many people calling for his head after no real pre-season and 1 starting game and 2 subs.
I also thought we seemed much better with Leuluai at hooker and I'd prefer him to play there but I don't think Finch/Deacon is the right combination at halves. Tricky one really.
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| Quote P-J="P-J"Richards.'"
Not for me. He hasn't got the passing or running game of a modern fullback in the mould of Tomkins, Roberts, Phelps, Greenshields, Slater, Minachelo (sp), Hodgson etc. He's a winger for mine.
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| I'd like to go with ...
Sam
Charnley/Marsh
Joel
Carmont
Pat
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Tommy
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Hoffman
Lockers
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"And there's a lot who say leave him at fullback or haven't said either way - hence why this "minority" bollox is just that. Some people are desperate to find an excuse for our ropey form so the Sam for 6 brigade are vocal. I didn't hear many at the end of last season or the start of this.'"
That's because we had a sense of cohesion in the halves - Deacon's absence is being massively understated by many IMO.
We saw exactly what Sam has to offer at Full Back in the first 3 minutes on Friday, when he puts himself into the line like that he can be unplayable at times.
Long term, Sam should play at 1 for me, but until we have Finch firing on all cylinders and able to offer a sense of direction and play making to the team, Sam is better served at 6 where he can influence the team more.
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"I'd give Roberts a 4/5 weeks on the wing no matter how he plays to get him back up to speed. IF he can get anywhere near last seasons form, I think we'll be a better team with him at 1 and Sam at 6. If he can't get up to speed in those few weeks then Sam is the only realistic option at 1.
His nightmare at Hudds was only from bombs in the first half. =#FF0000He returned the ball well and apart from a dodgy pass into touch, he linked up well.
The same grace has got to be given to Finch. Too many people calling for his head after no real pre-season and 1 starting game and 2 subs.
I also thought we seemed much better with Leuluai at hooker and I'd prefer him to play there but I don't think Finch/Deacon is the right combination at halves. Tricky one really.'"
So what is the problem? It is just my opinion he should play there because we look far better with Sam at 6. It is about the whole team.
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| How about trying Matty Russell at Full Back?
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"So what is the problem? It is just my opinion he should play there because we look far better with Sam at 6. It is about the whole team.'"
I was told he was injured after the Leeds game but I really don't know why he hasn't been allowed to string a few games together.
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