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| Fair play it would be churlish to criticise him for taking this step. But what worries me is it indicates we are only 225k below cap if I'm reading it right. Jesus Christ how are we so turd then?
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| A good 30% of that cap has most likely spent the season on the sidelines. I think this is the best team we have had in some time and the issue is more with organisation, preparation and to a degree injuries.
With 100% fit squad I genuinly believe we are a match for anyone. The other down side is that of smith and kirmond who have been instrumental for us previous seasons seem to be really struggling to find even a shred of form this year.
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| "We know we have made mistakes along the way, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but every decision taken has been done so with the best interests of Wakefield Trinity at heart"
It's this one sentence that sums up what is both right and wrong about MC's administration IMHO.
I believe he is trying to do the right thing, however the reason he has made some mistakes (not all) is because he hasn't listened to genuine fans advice - especially that offered by some highly knowledgeable ones. It's not just MC I accept - it's symptomatic of modern age British management where they will listen intently to almost anyone rather than the guys at the coal face.
Dedicated supporters have slowly drifted away in the Glover/Carter years to a point where Squadbuilder and Wisca no longer appear to operate at anything like the level they did some years back. I may be wrong and all is tickety boo but I see very little evidence of fan participation at any level. Where is the fanzine, I'll tell you - no one is interested because there is no longer a feeling that it can help. As a matter of note the 6 editions of 4foxsake that ran from 2005 to 2008 raised about 3k. Not a lot but from a club that claims to be skint due to lack of fans support you'd think they would be pushing it - I suspect they would find some H&S rule to stop us selling it now.
Squadbuilder in particular was a real success especially the dinners - even if it wasn't as good as some other clubs it helped a lot - now I doubt it scratches the surface - Belly or Feline tell me if I'm wrong.
I myself have probably through the years given the club thousands of pounds of free design work - I know the Dixon family firm printed the Fanzine for free!
I can't talk for them but I'm still willing to help however there no longer appears to be a gateway - snowie will say come forward and offer - fine but one, I get the feeling it would be more like an interview than a grateful acceptance of help and two should we really have to - who we are is not a secret.
Finally and I know Bigal will hate me making him a cause celeb but regardless of the rights and wrongs on both sides I have to ask why a simple apology was not offered. I can't believe in a modern Britain where the customer is always right and apologies are always offered even if not heart felt MC felt the need to dig his heals in and buck the trend. Come on MC brace yourself and smell the coffee. RL is a product driven business these days and when the product is as poor as the one you're selling (on virtually every level) you should be bending over backwards to keep fans like Al. I'd go as far as saying he'd have to of put my cat in a liquidiser and turned it on before I'd of retracted an apology if I were CEO. That's the reality MC, that's how low WTRLFC is in the pecking order and that includes you as it's CEO. That is not a personal attack on you but it is the reality of the position you hold - I only wish it were otherwise. Every vote and every penny helps and not just the shed load I am happy to believe you've shoved in - if you can't see that well...
At the end of the day it's not all about you and it certainly isn't all about me - it's all about teamwork and the fans are part of the team and you need to get them back on board - not as naughty school kids to be tolerated but as what most of them really are - PARTNERS.
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| "Finally and I know Bigal will hate me making him a cause celeb but"
makes no sense, this cost Trin at least £2,000 probably nearer £3,000
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| Hi.
I read this letter with interest and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
As a journalist, I can spot a "puff piece" a mile away. I had to try and balance my professional training with my love of a club that I have been watching home and away for over thirty five years. Something did need to come from the club however, it is purely my opinion that this letter was not it.
Many of the points raised seem fine on the surface. You only have to just scratch the surface though to realise that the "positives" mentioned may be little or no use to us in the long run.
Our academy has been graded as good. Well, that's fantastic news. It will be great comfort to the clubs who sign those promising young talents after we have gone out of business.
We should be able to spend only £50,000 short of the full salary cap next year. That of course all depends on our survival this year, which as time goes by looks ever more in jeapody. Also due to the club's lack of awareness and acumen, even if we do survive, we will have two more years of an expensive squad that our hopelessly inept coaching and conditioning team have no clue what to do with. If we do survive, may I suggest using some of the increased Sky money to sent Mr Webster on his way. There is no mention of how the club are going to turn around our fortunes on the field. I'm afraid for me personally, the injury crisis excuse is wearing a little thin.
Anybody who thinks the new Conservative MP will be more likely to be on board than the old Labour MP knows nothing about politics or politicians in general. She will make all the appropriate noises until we start chasing two million pounds from a debt ridden council that is struggling to provide the most basic services to its residents. Then the classic politician's rhetoric will kick in and we will come to a very sudden, grinding halt.
We need action now! Not a letter basically saying that if we somehow manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth, the future looks awesome. If I win the lottery, my future looks awesome. I don't like those odds though.
Finally on a personal note. This is my first post on this forum but I am by no means a troll. I have read these forums for years but until now, I have never felt the need to comment. I am also not a fool. My comments, I realise, will have no bearing on the future of the club. It is the only outlet I have though for venting my considerable frustrations.
Please Mr Carter, we need action now. Please don't let my club die.
Thank you.
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| Quote TrinFanX="TrinFanX"Hi.
I read this letter with interest and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
As a journalist, I can spot a "puff piece" a mile away. I had to try and balance my professional training with my love of a club that I have been watching home and away for over thirty five years. Something did need to come from the club however, it is purely my opinion that this letter was not it.
Many of the points raised seem fine on the surface. You only have to just scratch the surface though to realise that the "positives" mentioned may be little or no use to us in the long run.
Our academy has been graded as good. Well, that's fantastic news. It will be great comfort to the clubs who sign those promising young talents after we have gone out of business.
We should be able to spend only £50,000 short of the full salary cap next year. That of course all depends on our survival this year, which as time goes by looks ever more in jeapody. Also due to the club's lack of awareness and acumen, even if we do survive, we will have two more years of an expensive squad that our hopelessly inept coaching and conditioning team have no clue what to do with. If we do survive, may I suggest using some of the increased Sky money to sent Mr Webster on his way. There is no mention of how the club are going to turn around our fortunes on the field. I'm afraid for me personally, the injury crisis excuse is wearing a little thin.
Anybody who thinks the new Conservative MP will be more likely to be on board than the old Labour MP knows nothing about politics or politicians in general. She will make all the appropriate noises until we start chasing two million pounds from a debt ridden council that is struggling to provide the most basic services to its residents. Then the classic politician's rhetoric will kick in and we will come to a very sudden, grinding halt.
We need action now! Not a letter basically saying that if we somehow manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth, the future looks awesome. If I win the lottery, my future looks awesome. I don't like those odds though.
Finally on a personal note. This is my first post on this forum but I am by no means a troll. I have read these forums for years but until now, I have never felt the need to comment. I am also not a fool. My comments, I realise, will have no bearing on the future of the club. It is the only outlet I have though for venting my considerable frustrations.
Please Mr Carter, we need action now. Please don't let my club die.
Thank you.'"
I agree, glad it wasn't just me that thought that.
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| As first posts go TrinFanX that was a superb start. You assess MC's message very well.
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| Regarding the M.P. Anybody who opposes Box in any way shape or form has to be good for Trinity.
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| A very good and well considered post by Trin.FanX.
It does not improve my Trinity related mood by it is good to see what I and others think put so well.
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Quote TrinFanX="TrinFanX"Hi.
I read this letter with interest and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
As a journalist, I can spot a "puff piece" a mile away....Anybody who thinks the new Conservative MP will be more likely to be on board than the old Labour MP knows nothing about politics or politicians in general. She will make all the appropriate noises until we start chasing two million pounds from a debt ridden council that is struggling to provide the most basic services to its residents. Then the classic politician's rhetoric will kick in and we will come to a very sudden, grinding halt..Thank you.'"
Ed has been a teaching fellow in the Department of Economics, Harvard (1989-90) and a columnist for the Financial Times, Guardian, New Statesman and Tribune. Ed is married to Yvette Cooper MP. They have three children - Ellie, Joe and Maddy - and live in Castleford.....
www.edballs.co.uk/about-ed.php
TrinFanx isn't Ed Balls is he? 
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Quote TrinFanX="TrinFanX"Hi.
I read this letter with interest and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
As a journalist, I can spot a "puff piece" a mile away....Anybody who thinks the new Conservative MP will be more likely to be on board than the old Labour MP knows nothing about politics or politicians in general. She will make all the appropriate noises until we start chasing two million pounds from a debt ridden council that is struggling to provide the most basic services to its residents. Then the classic politician's rhetoric will kick in and we will come to a very sudden, grinding halt..Thank you.'"
Ed has been a teaching fellow in the Department of Economics, Harvard (1989-90) and a columnist for the Financial Times, Guardian, New Statesman and Tribune. Ed is married to Yvette Cooper MP. They have three children - Ellie, Joe and Maddy - and live in Castleford.....
www.edballs.co.uk/about-ed.php
TrinFanx isn't Ed Balls is he? 
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| Quote TrinFanX="TrinFanX"Hi.
I read this letter with interest and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
As a journalist, I can spot a "puff piece" a mile away. I had to try and balance my professional training with my love of a club that I have been watching home and away for over thirty five years. Something did need to come from the club however, it is purely my opinion that this letter was not it.
Many of the points raised seem fine on the surface. You only have to just scratch the surface though to realise that the "positives" mentioned may be little or no use to us in the long run.
Our academy has been graded as good. Well, that's fantastic news. It will be great comfort to the clubs who sign those promising young talents after we have gone out of business.
We should be able to spend only £50,000 short of the full salary cap next year. That of course all depends on our survival this year, which as time goes by looks ever more in jeapody. Also due to the club's lack of awareness and acumen, even if we do survive, we will have two more years of an expensive squad that our hopelessly inept coaching and conditioning team have no clue what to do with. If we do survive, may I suggest using some of the increased Sky money to sent Mr Webster on his way. There is no mention of how the club are going to turn around our fortunes on the field. I'm afraid for me personally, the injury crisis excuse is wearing a little thin.
Anybody who thinks the new Conservative MP will be more likely to be on board than the old Labour MP knows nothing about politics or politicians in general. She will make all the appropriate noises until we start chasing two million pounds from a debt ridden council that is struggling to provide the most basic services to its residents. Then the classic politician's rhetoric will kick in and we will come to a very sudden, grinding halt.
We need action now! Not a letter basically saying that if we somehow manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth, the future looks awesome. If I win the lottery, my future looks awesome. I don't like those odds though.
Finally on a personal note. This is my first post on this forum but I am by no means a troll. I have read these forums for years but until now, I have never felt the need to comment. I am also not a fool. My comments, I realise, will have no bearing on the future of the club. It is the only outlet I have though for venting my considerable frustrations.
Please Mr Carter, we need action now. Please don't let my club die.
Thank you.'"
Hi Martyn - not much happening a League Express HQ then ?
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| Quote wildshot="wildshot"As first posts go TrinFanX that was a superb start. You assess MC's message very well.'"
First in that name but first ever post my bum, jeez some of you will fall for anything that suits you.
Not sure who it is yet but credit where it's due it was well written and entertaining with some genuinely pertinent points. 
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