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| Quote Raised Elbow="Raised Elbow"All things considered i would like Noble to be our next coach and i would give Agar the job of DOR as i still think he has something to offer the club but unfortunately not head coach.'"
You think noble would work under agar? |
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"You think noble would work under agar?'"
Well,as no other ferker is,I guess the answer is ,no. |
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how is a noble or hasler gunna make the likes of horne yeaman whiting long fitz dowes radford the list is endless any better ? this squad 5 years ago would have won sl...unfortunatly we are 5 years too late
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"
There's nothing to stop them coming out and admitting things are unacceptable and need to improve though. It's the fact they're seemingly ignoring it that annoys the fans. Didn't the SKY commentators say that hudgell had written a piece to that effect in the dobbins programme for the leeds match?'"
Fair comment, maybe they need to change their spin to keep more fans happy - if that's possible any more. But if Hudge did say those things it doesn't mean they're doing more than our board is behind the scenes to rectify things...however you're completely right at least it gives them some semblance of credibility that they're in step with the fans and that they're all in it together. |
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| Quote barton baird="barton baird""Jake the Peg" wrote
I'm not sure about the whole DOR/manager/coach roles/jargon anyway. One man in charge of the team regardless of titles and that's that. If, let's say for arguments sake, Noble came then it would have to be at the expense of Agar, not in 'complimentary' roles either way. Personally I would keep Webster ad assistant and if Rich was to stay it could only be in some sort if development/scout role which he clearly has some talent in.
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| Quote wudmansir="wudmansir"how is a noble or hasler gunna make the likes of horne yeaman whiting long fitz dowes radford the list is endless any better ? this squad 5 years ago would have won sl...unfortunatly we are 5 years too late'"
how would maguire take a wigan side that finished mid table for a few yyears with a squad thats not really any better then yours to dominant champions, same said with nathan brown at hudds. |
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| Quote arliebird="arliebird"how would maguire take a wigan side that finished mid table for a few yyears with a squad thats not really any better then yours to dominant champions, same said with nathan brown at hudds.'"
better players at those clubs mate |
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"I never said that, and I don't recall too many others saying it either. Of course, if 'most' said it, you'll be able to point to several posts containing those sentiments.
I never said that, and I don't recall too many others saying it either. I said he was a 'very good' coach who could get us to the level where we are able to compete with the top teams. I even expressed some reservation as to whether he was the man to lead us to silverware.
You don't say? Like I (and several others) have said all along. That you imagined otherwise doesn't change that.
Wigan would say average? I don't think so. He laid the groundwork for what McGuire is achieving now. If you don't believe me, ask McGuire. He lead Crusaders to their first ever top 8 finish and they've dropped right back since he left. I think they might just hold him in high regard, too.
Him, or someone like him, yes.'"
Lordy - I never attributed either statement to either of us. I was speaking generally using extremes to illustrate the point. There is no doubt, though, that reaction when Nobles name was first mentioned a couple on months ago was less than lukewarm. It isn't now.
From what I see we agree on our views of Noble, his achievements over the last few years and what he can offer us. No animosity needed then. |
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| Quote wudmansir="wudmansir""arliebird" wrote
Only now they are - look at Eorl Crabtree for example, only a few years ago he was a big, but devastatingly average forward, now with the right coaching, training and club setup he is a devastating big forward.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"You think noble would work under agar?'"
When Smith went to Wire he assumed the title Director of Coaching. Lowes retained his of First Team Coach.
Something similar could be engineered at Hull, surely, to keep everyone happy? |
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It just shows how bad things have got when a defeat by Rovers could do us a favour. Would a Rovers spanking be enough to get rid of Agar? Agree with the sentiment that relegation would wake the 'board', they're like rabbits in the headlights.
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| Quote wudmansir="wudmansir"how is a noble or hasler gunna make the likes of horne yeaman whiting long fitz dowes radford the list is endless any better ? this squad 5 years ago would have won sl...unfortunatly we are 5 years too late'"
See numerous examples on this thread and others on how Noble, Smith, McGuire et al have done exactly this with other inherited squads. We have a good squad with a coach that doesn't know how to develop or get the best out of them.
Looking from the other angle, how different is Graeme Horne as a player after two years under Brown at Hudds? First team regular, highly regarded. Completely stagnant under Agar at Hull. |
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