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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"Fri night was my first game of the season and at half time i said that if that is how rugly league is now being played that i wouldnt be coming again for a while. How anyone could think that a longer wrestle is an improvement is beyond me. Players were lieing all over each other and taking an eternity to move away as well as using the tackled player as an aid to getting up, slowly and it was happening on both sides. Thankfully the second half improved and so did my opinion of the game as a whole.'"
It is definitely detracting from the game as an entertaining contest. I'm sure we must be able to come up with multiple specific examples on video of unacceptable laying on/wrestling that's gone unpenalised for the RFL - not just in our games, in general. It needs sorting quickly IMO.
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| Stopped off in the supporters bar in the KC for a quick drink after the game and Dennis Moore came in and said the wrestle is becoming embaressing to watch. Cant really argue with him. Its also a total waste of players energy to fight to get up and play it quick if the refs are not going to give penalties for it.
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Stopped off in the supporters bar in the KC for a quick drink after the game and Dennis Moore came in and said the wrestle is becoming embaressing to watch. Cant really argue with him. Its also a total waste of players energy to fight to get up and play it quick if the refs are not going to give penalties for it.'"
It was embarrassing on Friday, particularly in the first half. Is there nothing we can do to try and lobby Red Hall about it? With extensive video footage that we capture, we must be able to put together loads of examples where it's been unacceptable, across our game and others'. Attendances generally are under pressure at the moment and slowing the game down and increasing/energy spent on the floor will do nothing to help.
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| This was commented on by Agar in the post-match interviews, and Barry Mc discussed it on the Boots 'n' all podcast this week (skip to 19.50). He mainly questioned the roles of the touch judges, and felt that they should have more communication with the ref. and marshall more, he felt that the 2-referees route should be explored, but that an easier option could be a review of the touch judges role.
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| Quote Panda92="Panda92"This was commented on by Agar in the post-match interviews, and Barry Mc discussed it on the Boots 'n' all podcast this week (skip to 19.50). He mainly questioned the roles of the touch judges, and felt that they should have more communication with the ref. and marshall more, he felt that the 2-referees route should be explored, but that an easier option could be a review of the touch judges role.'"
I think the touch judges should get more involved in other areas, but think it's a red herring as far as the slowing the PTB down issue goes. The referee is closest to it.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"I think the touch judges should get more involved in other areas, but think it's a red herring as far as the slowing the PTB down issue goes. The referee is closest to it.'"
I feel the same, really. Maybe if they could take more of a role in watching offsides it could allow the ref to look more the the ptb, but the refs don't seem to be too hot on the offsides, either.
I do wish that they would get involved more, though. All they seem to be are human-markers for where a try was scored, and judging the conversions, nothing more than that for most of the game.
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| One thing i've notice from the preceding games, huddersfield, wigan and bradford is everytime a three man tackle takes place each oppersition player gets off the tackled player one at a time, which slows the ptb right down. Where as our players same to get off together, is this a tactic we need to employ.
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"Fri night was my first game of the season and at half time i said that if that is how rugly league is now being played that i wouldnt be coming again for a while. How anyone could think that a longer wrestle is an improvement is beyond me. Players were lieing all over each other and taking an eternity to move away as well as using the tackled player as an aid to getting up, slowly and it was happening on both sides. Thankfully the second half improved and so did my opinion of the game as a whole.'"
I think you will not be the only one thinking twice about going to watch the game being slowed down to the extent it is. The crowd at all games is becoming understandably preoccupied with the wrestling tactics as are the players. The change in 'interpretation' is a joke and is wrong. Time for the powers that be to act or face the prospect of gates falling and justified criticism being the norm.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"I think you will not be the only one thinking twice about going to watch the game being slowed down to the extent it is. The crowd at all games is becoming understandably preoccupied with the wrestling tactics as are the players. The change in 'interpretation' is a joke and is wrong. Time for the powers that be to act or face the prospect of gates falling and justified criticism being the norm.'"
Totally agree. I said the same as Sebasteeno at half time. Not the way our game should be going and the powers that be need to address it asap
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| In the warm up Bradford /Cas practised the wrestle I pointed this out to fans we sit with ..In the 3 man tackle the last man off take his time.. I blame the Aussie Coaches for bring this into our game If thing don't suit them bend the rules ..Complaining does help How many times have Rovers had Ben (Justin's mate ) ref their games  since he complained about him
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| Not just us then when it comes to this. Also we havent mastered the technique of turning people on their backs like crabs in the tackle which makes it slower to play the ball.
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| Too quick a play off the ball can just lead to players running out of dummy half all the time, though - which is boring in its own way.
I'd consider a quicker play, but combine it with an 8m offside line. Split the pitch into 12x8m and make 40-20s, 40-24s.
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