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| Quote Mr Angry="Mr Angry"They ALL can't be playing poorly. Eddie and Stevo insist this is the bestest Super Dooper League EVER in the history of mankind.'"
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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"Agar for me. I want to see him have a fair crack of the whip over a decent period of time. There is no relegation and, therefore, we should not hurry to damn an up-and-coming British coach. And let's judge him when he's putting out the team that we have invested in. No-one is asking how well all of the other teams are doing without two of their best signings. If our two were here we'd be a better team: if we knew they weren't coming we might have been able to spend the money elsewhere. At the moment, a large part of the salary cap is just not generating anything for us on the pitch. Take a couple of spark-plugs out of your car and see what happens.'"
Where's the evidence for that?
Otherwise some good points well made. Agar's luck hasn't been any better than Peter Sharpe's in many respects, but on the other hand he seems to be equally unable to deal with it.
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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"Right that's it - time for a beer.'"
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| Quote Mr Angry="Mr Angry"Was it something I said?
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No it's just nearly 8:00 over here and it really is time for a beer. I've posted way too muck b0ll0cks on here for one day and I thought I'd give you all a rest. 
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| Quote David Watts="David Watts"I agree mate - some Leeds fans are not happy with their coach, nor Bradford with theirs. Warrington are still near the bottom, which is where Catalans were a few weeks ago. Wigan are still four points below us despite playing one game more.
Let's get things in perspective (difficult for some people on here, I know) - yes, we are playing poorly at the minute, but so are a lot of other teams. We need to get off his back and see how he copes with this run of poor results - that will determine how good he and the rest of the coaching set up really are.'"
The idea of accepting our own mediocrity due to the fact other teams are playing poorly is a very weak arguement. We have played poorly ever since Agar took over. Even when we were winning our first five games, we barely played with consistancy. We could have easily lost against Wigan, Hudds and Celtic. There are tons of problems with the team, which is down to both players and the coaching set up. I want a new coaching set up and I want them to get the players to either shape up or not give them new contracts until they do, thus meaning crap players will eventually leave. If there wasn't a salary cap and we had the money, I would have backed any new coach to release players |
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| I agree that Agar has got to be given time; it wasnt that long ago people were hailing him as one of the best british coaches after the start we made to the season
hopeful he can turn it around but if he doesnt i don't want to see jon sharp taking over. The right man has got to be Stephen Keareny with Richard Swain as his assitant -
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Don't know why Swain's name keeps coming up in all this speculation about a potential new coach. After his supposed involvement in the whole Kear situation, I don't think I'd want him back at the club.
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If we played to any sort of gameplan, or looked capable of playing the game at pace, or had movement off the ball to cause uncertainty in defence, or played with width, hell, if we even looked like the players saw each other between games, then I'd be prepared to give agar a chance. But we don't, we haven't since mcrae left. agar has learnt his trade under 2 "failed" coaches and it shows on the pitch. Time is running out for the club. People's patience will disappear this year with no wembley appearance and crowds will start to fall. The club cannot allow the decline to continue and must act IMO
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"If we played to any sort of gameplan, or looked capable of playing the game at pace, or had movement off the ball to cause uncertainty in defence, or played with width, hell, if we even looked like the players saw each other between games, then I'd be prepared to give agar a chance. But we don't, we haven't since mcrae left. agar has learnt his trade under 2 "failed" coaches and it shows on the pitch. Time is running out for the club. People's patience will disappear this year with no wembley appearance and crowds will start to fall. The club cannot allow the decline to continue and must act IMO'"
Good post Jake.
Some of our interchange decisions have been beyond belief at times.
Sadly, Agar is not the right man to lead our club. We deserve better!
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| Quote The HULL FC Rocker="The HULL FC Rocker"you like to succeed Mr Agar if he goes and Mr Sharp doesn't want the job............'"
Shane Webcke!?
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Quote The HULL FC RockerFIRST the pulp and then the gulp. Shane Webcke swallowed his pride yesterday, quitting his coaching role with the Broncos in the wake of the controversy surrounding his new book.'" |
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| Quote The Key="The Key"The idea of accepting our own mediocrity due to the fact other teams are playing poorly is a very weak arguement. We have played poorly ever since Agar took over. Even when we were winning our first five games, we barely played with consistancy. We could have easily lost against Wigan, Hudds and Celtic. There are tons of problems with the team, which is down to both players and the coaching set up. I want a new coaching set up and I want them to get the players to either shape up or not give them new contracts until they do, thus meaning crap players will eventually leave. If there wasn't a salary cap and we had the money, I would have backed any new coach to release players'"
There's lots of things I disagree with about Hull FC at the moment. However, getting shut of the coaching set up and all the "crap" players that have been identified on here, as well as Kath Hetherington et al is simply not going to happen.
The reality is, like it or not, that Agar is the current coach. He is in charge of a team that are currently playing poorly, as are many other coaches. If he turns it around in the next few games then it will show he may be the right choice (only long term success will determine that). If not then throw him on the scrapheap never to be heard of again (like we did with two of our last three coaches ) |
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