It always sounds like there are more of them than there are too, because if you're sat within 50 metres of one, you can hear him loud and clear. I reckon every club could evict around 15 of these fans and the problem would be largely solved. I'm just surprised, and annoyed, he wasn't sat near the barrow fans giving them stick. At least he'd have been thrown out then.

It was a grey day indeed. To be honest for the first time I felt like getting up and walking out before half time. A mix of woeful incompetence from the referee and a fairly lethargic performance from the players just about did it for me.

Thackray can't do it all by himself but after today he'll hopefully have a foil... I'm fairly hopeful from the rave reviews I've had of this lad.



The first move of the match seemed to sum up the first half performance, Widnes once again failing to deal with a fairly straightforward kick off. I agree completely about Rooney. The lad is a big talent in this division and Barrow wouldn't be half the team without him. However I felt his gesturing to the crowd was completely uncalled for.



Our second half was better but we still seemingly managed to fluff at least three good attempts where we had men over but the player with the ball in hand refused to release it.



Flynn seems to be a revelation at full back.

I take it he will be eligilble for the NRC if called upon?

Who are you two talking about? Think I missed something because of my headphones.

I'm not quite sure mate. Hopefully he'll be signing on the line tomorrow.

Just a quick reminder to everyone: generalised complaints about the state of affairs are okay but unfounded sick allegations are not helpful or welcome. If you have a genuine complaint against the fans of the club for things you claim people have said, go to the club. You wont achieve anything posting accusations like the ones I've just deleted here.

no problem as it has already been reported, witnessed by the stewards and on CCTV. I think the fans on here should know that these idiots have been reported and what they have done. You absolutely right it was sick and Im sorry you found it so foul that you had to remove it.

I had a great day today with my two boys and I will leave it to the clubs to sort out, however I will be asking for updates from our club as this can not be allowed.

In the league express it says that widnes are trying to identify fans who abused cullen at the end of the match. Are the fans beginning to turn against him or was it just a few idiots? 20-24? Not bad,you can't win every week.

There are a section of the fans that I would argue were looking for a reason to have a go from day one. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was one of them.

There is some unrest amongst others who are unwilling to accept the reasons given for our recent performances and are becoming disheartened.

There are still others like myself that think we have been dealt a fairly dreadful hand this year and it looks to get even worse with yet another player facing time on the sidelines.

I think its the manner of the defeats though that are getting on some people's wicks. Teams are racking up 20 - 30 point headstarts on us before we even get out of the blocks. The referee was woeful on Sunday but the gap that appeared for Barrow to score two very very very easy tries was so much worse.

The preparation going into the games definately needs looking at. Widnes need to try harder and focus for the opening 20 minutes.

Chris,totally agree with you on the preparation and focus thing,perfect example being the kick off right at the

beginning of the game.It was a shocker that no-one seemed to want to take the ball on the full,pretty much summed up how we played that 1st forty

..As crap as the ref was,he didnt miss soft tackles etc etc..

Brad Drew or Deacon?

Paul cullen is now saying any widnes fans who want to boo can go and watch warrington! But we don't boo anymore paul,and you are not coaching us anymore! The fans of your new team are starting to boo,so who is the problem Mr. Cullen? Take a look in the mirror PC. And make it a long........hard one.